What do people mean she needs a nerf? My brother who's in D4 has seen people say this as well and we both can't understand why people say she needs a nerf, I tried playing her and I think she's VERY difficult to play effectively, my brother mains her and people are saying in his Elo "Taliyah needs a nerf" even before minions spawn.
Rins Thigh Socks4 votesShe's a staple pro pick because she's effectively a better TF with a good laning phase and stronger early pushing power.
Rexxiee5 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FdAviYaz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-26T22:33:30.527+0000)
She's a staple pro pick because she's effectively a better TF with a good laning phase and stronger early pushing power.
Not only that but she can actually kill tanks too.
Her Q is just a stupid strong spell for its CD.
Bultz1 votesShe's not really that hard to play and she does a shit ton of damage in the right hands. Yes she can take a pounding too, but she isn't weak. Anytime I have played as her in random games and game modes, I usually end up doing very well for someone who has never tried to play her.
Doodlzzz1 votesfirst of all, she IS really hard to play, especially when you are new to her w type of skillshot; it takes a long time to get used to. She is good in high elo because people can actually play her right and work out her kit effectively.
Trust me, if a Bronze 5 player tried Taliyah for the first time, it would NOT be pretty.
Bultz1 votesfirst of all, she IS really hard to play, especially when you are new to her w type of skillshot; it takes a long time to get used to. She is good in high elo because people can actually play her right and work out her kit effectively.
lol shes really not. I rekt so easily as her it's boring to play. The only people who have trouble at skillshots are new league players. She is good in high elo same as every other mage, they are busted and can be abused in the right hands, just like syndra.
Trust me, if a Bronze 5 player tried Taliyah for the first time, it would NOT be pretty.
it's not really hard.
Joxcab1 votesShe's not strong enough to warrant nerfs but she is still good in good hands. The nerf is nonsensical.
Rexxiee4 votesShe's not strong enough to warrant nerfs but she is still good in good hands. The nerf is nonsensical.
Being spammed in high elo/competitive play = not strong enough to warrant nerfs.
Ayy lmao.
Joxcab1 votesWhile still maintaining a net negative winrate, but eh who cares about facts.
Don't presume you can talk back if you don't even know what you're talking about.
Salron3 votesold LB had a shit WR way back while also being massively overpowered Winrates mean shit Don't presume you can talk if you don't even know what you're talking about
Joxcab1 votesuh.
No, old LeBlanc was not overpowered. She was toxic design. That's entirely different. She was still shit tier for the most part. Hence the trash winrate.
Learn what you're talking about.
Rins Thigh Socks3 votesWhile still maintaining a net negative winrate, but eh who cares about facts.
Don't presume you can talk back if you don't even know what you're talking about.
If you go to leagueofgraphs, Taliyah's winrate shoots up from a global of 47.9% to 52.8% in Diamond+
But eh, who cares about facts.
Joxcab1 votesAlmost like the massive majority of the roster also doing well in Diamond+ but eh who cares about that.
Rins Thigh Socks2 votesAlmost like the massive majority of the roster also doing well in Diamond+ but eh who cares about that.
hey man you were bitching about her negative winrate so I gave you the facts. When the player in question isn't low Bronze with a negative winrate she's actually a really good champion.
That being said winrate doesn't entirely correlate with how good a champion is because it doesn't account for non-mains or the raw difficulty required to pull off a champion well. Taliyah is one of those champions that is difficult to pull off well but the payout is quite huge.
Daemonette1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FdAviYaz,comment-id=000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T22:49:40.567+0000)
hey man you were bitching about her negative winrate so I gave you the facts. When the player in question isn't low Bronze with a negative winrate she's actually a really good champion.
That being said winrate doesn't entirely correlate with how good a champion is because it doesn't account for non-mains or the raw difficulty required to pull off a champion well. Taliyah is one of those champions that is difficult to pull off well but the payout is quite huge.
Do not worry to much about Joxcab. Sound like he is a Taliyah main and does not want this op champion gone.
Avienal1 votesWhat do people mean she needs a nerf? My brother who's in D4 has seen people say this as well and we both can't understand why people say she needs a nerf, I tried playing her and I think she's VERY difficult to play effectively, my brother mains her and people are saying in his Elo "Taliyah needs a nerf" even before minions spawn.
Considering i basically do 'not' see her really outside of really random games which are super scarce for me to even seen, i feel like her play rate in terms of random matches is considerably low but i assume in organized play, she can pull some strong moments with R wall lock ups, especially to catch someone who just wasted flash.
It might be due to people not properly thinking and knowing the difference between a champion that requires alot of skill and focus to make use of vs a champion who just gets a point and click erase. Because on the opposite side of the spectrum, i really wonder why champions like 
can't have a legitimate excuse to 'not' get buffs, when she needs them to her early game so she isn't put in the sad excuse people like to throw "This champion rocks late game", when plenty of other champions with much more scummy early games, can likely operate overkill into the late game likely just as good, yet Tristana does not have a insane level of overkill or above average 'good' mid game due to lack of any marksmen item interactions period that aren't going to make her get screwed over by every single 'good' or 'overpowered' early game champion thats picked.
The same i can also say to why we aren't getting more hits to 
, 
and especially GOD, DAMN, 
because said champions are either beyond overpowered especially even if they 'tidied up' dusk blade a bit, but still left the snowballing scale with your level lethality on it and play making EZ mode harass supports who can still play make by harassing and even if they only get 1 out of 20 hooks, they still turn it into a GG EZ game FF at 15 mins result because of it.
That or the same could be said to 
, literally no champion would build this item besides supports or super scummy high damage explosion type champions where they don't really need to get into combat till they hook you with a thresh/blitzcrank Q hook so instead they EZ run out of any skill shots or AoE delay abilities or everyone remembers 
's good old days of running around at high speeds, then detonating all her abilities on a squishie, able to ignore ward vision altogether thanks to her passive and her invisibility till within a certain range of enemies, but since she can basically run 80~115 more move speed then you she can easily close the gap and just explode on you, which is now covered by rather EZ wall jumper or high damage assassins instead, especially ones by the name of 
or 
.
Riot seriously needs to get its priorities straight because i feel like they constantly ignore the champions who get no attention done to them when they have been in the dumpster of champions that are not in the top 50 of picks out of the 130+~ champions around and instead of giving them some fix ups, they trickle on one or two of them a few times and instead would go and give buffs to champions like 
and 
who are part of the EZ damage and fighter yolo EZ escape club with their own gimmicks and safety measures.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Daemonette1 votesWhen he level 1 Q can do over 50% of your hps if a few rocks land. Almost instant killing you if all her rocks land with a Thunderlord proc. Yeah it very hard trying to go up against her if you are using a close range mid champion. She will just kite and do crazy damage from some very short cool downs.
