Is Kindred trash? Unplayable?

O Fallen Scholar·Oct 17, 2016·7 votes·3,007 views

I rarely see them. I used to play Kindred shit ton when their ult wasn't changed to waht it is now. Also I noticed some other nerfs.

24 Comments

ChalizardOct 18, 20164 votes

She is fine, a friend of mine has reached d2 with her and he says she is op so I guess she can't be that weak

Swiftstrike4Oct 17, 20163 votes

Because of frequent nerfs she has turned into a pretty high skill cap champion. Essentially with her early damage and health clears she was pretty easy to use well at lower elos. Now, however, she is more challenging to play and has a lower margin for error early because of her healing being removed and damage scaling lowered.

She is fine, just not dominant. Play amumu if you want to win.

O Fallen ScholarOct 17, 20162 votes

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Because of frequent nerfs she has turned into a pretty high skill cap champion. Essentially with her early damage and health clears she was pretty easy to use well at lower elos. Now, however, she is more challenging to play and has a lower margin for error early because of her healing being removed and damage scaling lowered.

She is fine, just not dominant. Play amumu if you want to win.

Healing removed :O, wow lol. No, I dislike Amumu. :(

Swiftstrike4Oct 17, 20161 votes

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Healing removed :O, wow lol. No, I dislike Amumu. :(

But amumu is soooooooo good. I jungle Vi and Diana when I do have to jungler though.

RogueWillOct 17, 20161 votes

Nah, Trundle just ults amumu and he melts faster than butter on the microwave.

Swiftstrike4Oct 17, 20162 votes

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Nah, just ults amumu and he melts faster than butter on the microwave.

Amumu is probably one of the best champions in the game. His win rate has been crazy high for multiple season and his ultimate decides so many games.

I do think he is boring to play though, but the champion is ridiculous.

RogueWillOct 17, 20161 votes

he is a jungler that lacks early game on an early game meta, the reason his win rates are so high is because most of the player base don't know how to close up games and thus he ends up scaling every game to the point where he can do his job. When you start to rise up on the ranks you can see his deficit more and more clearly

Swiftstrike4Oct 18, 20161 votes

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he is a jungler that lacks early game on an early game meta, the reason his win rates are so high is because most of the player base don't know how to close up games and thus he ends up scaling every game to the point where he can do his job. When you start to rise up on the ranks you can see his deficit more and more clearly

I don't know he maintains a really high win rate through plat because his ult is probably the best CC in the game. He begins to drop in diamond.

I think amumu's just boring as shit to play, but so good.

Swiftstrike4Oct 17, 20161 votes

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Healing removed :O, wow lol. No, I dislike Amumu. :(

I should clarify the healing was removed on one of her skills. It still remains for her ultimate. The skill made it so she could clear camps and sustain in the jungle pretty easily.

Unstoppable MonkOct 18, 20161 votes

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Because of frequent nerfs she has turned into a pretty high skill cap champion.

Nah, she's just reliant on teamwork now. She'll be a beast with lots of hunts.

PermabannedGarenOct 17, 20162 votes

She's (fuck Wolf no one cares about you) no longer the undisputed God-Queen of the Jungle, but no she's not bad right now.

EmittingXsOct 17, 20162 votes

that heal nerf destroyed her. yes she still has the potential to wreck other champs but she has a very hard time doing anything even when you take invades, marks, and overall camp clear into consideration. unless you're in a premade and can help her get ahead, she's gonna have a hard time. i wouldnt suggest using her when playing by yourself, you won't get the help you properly need.

if Riot thought she was too "safe" or whatever their excuse was, they definitely gave her a tough learning curve.

LaçezOct 17, 20162 votes

I main her even now but yeah, she's trash xD just made a long in-depth post about this like 3 mins ago

LaçezOct 17, 20162 votes

She can carry but it is mainly luck that gets you there to be honest and even when fed you don't feel lie you have that much of a presence or impact on the game apart from your ultimate sadly

inplaneOct 18, 20162 votes

The "Trash Champion of the Year" award would go to Taliyah .

Masala ChaiOct 18, 20166 votes

Taliyah is now semi-decent.

Kalista is absolute garbage.

SimpumbaOct 17, 20161 votes

I would say she's average. Because riot messed up with her nerfs, they nerfed her earlygame hard, and the issue is with kindred, if you don't do well earlygame, there's nothing you can do mid/lategame then.

TricolorStarOct 17, 20161 votes

My children got nerfed into the ground

The Yetii RiderOct 18, 20161 votes

Kindred went from having a strong early game and regular invading duelist to someone who is very easy to invade and kill.

It's like a complete 180 of the first eight minutes of the game. So the people who didn't like her and just played her because she was good stopped.

Bard R FridayOct 18, 20161 votes

I don't play them because of the severe thematic and kit mismatch. It makes me really sad because I love their thematic so much when their kit is completely different.

Whiteeye AvelynOct 18, 20161 votes

Kindred has been nerfed so many times that i will say she is trash in the hands of newer players, she was too good that riot may have over nerfed her but she was not olaf'ed to the point of unplayablility, Like when she was free everyone who played her in my games had problems cleaing jungle and only fed, But i have seen some really good kindred's carry. Honestly i wouldn't bother with her right now cause the effort it takes to do good in kinda insane for a person new to her.

TL:DR She is high skill/ high play capped and there are easier junglers to play instead

CavemanteroOct 19, 20161 votes

Kindred IS trash right now. I'm not sure what they nerfed but it seems her range is shit now. TwistedFate autos out ranged mine when I rolled them on an ARAM. And I died in two hits. With item 3072 and item 3022 . The ult was bad and smelled of my best friend 'Crabs' doing originally but at least she was playable before. Yet Rito still allows Ezreal broken kit out there for the flashy plays...

Spartan SolOct 19, 20161 votes

why do people keep saying kindreds clears are bad? i never even use a pot and i do a full clear with 3/4 hp.. do yall not realize her W is a mega slow to jungle camps? kite the hell out of them lol.. i never get touched by red or blue buff only the little minions.. and as long as your healthy on your passive stacks your still doing absurd damage and can easily carry. her only real weak point is her early game damage pre 5 stacks is lower and she has no sustain in fights like she did before and her ult is feast or famine most times but other than that she still turns into a mid-late game monster just like she always has..

Great MutaOct 19, 20161 votes

Yep:

High skill cap
Lack of mana, lack of damage, slow ms
Can be 1v1'd by anyone at any time, even if you have huge gold/cs leads
Your hunts show where you are going and make it easy for the enemy to counter jungle you

Just pick Graves. Better at everything and his ult will get you further.