Why would anyone play garen tank when the most fun way to play him is

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Oh...being the big stupid I am sees purple and think ooh ap! Thanks for clearing that up :)

well it does magic damage based on missing hp or true damage if they are marked villian but you cant increase it by ap that is the kicker. but magic pen helps it so a troll ap would be flat magic pen reds, ad quints, armor yellows, cdr blues and taking 6-18-6 with thunderlords decree and the arm pen magic pen mastery and then getting

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but do u see the potential ? bleed effect that heals you as garen the armor pen cdr hp armor the burst damage of duskblade when you ult.

Yes but i've committed to only playing crit garen until mastery 7 and i'm mastery 6 with one or two tokens, consistently getting s- games, really saddens me

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If I recall correctly DFG did 15% max HP magic damage, and then amplified incoming magic damage (I think by 15%)

And garen's ult did magic damage. So DFG amplified the damage of his Execution ultimate. While the damage from the initial use, insured that his ults Execute would also be large.

I never used it myself, (I didn't think investing in an otherwise useless item on Garen, for an effect that only amps the ult, was worth it) but when I saw videos, Anyone with Half health or less would pretty much die to that combo.

but my garen build ensures that anyone with full health will die with a q, if that fails hit e, if that fails you can hit q again or you can ult and q the next guy, because you can easily go 1v3

Also as a side note, there's nothing more intimidating then a garen who's about to oneshot you ghosting and gostblading down lane towards you with his q active, the move speed is insane and people just start scrambling, if you need a little bit more speed you can hit heal (Though i usually save it for the 1v3 scenario)

he takes towers down in under 8 seconds at half build and can escape the inevitable four man gank coming from him (Because you really dont want to 3 man gank him, if you're successful you'll still probably lose one or two men)

He can E a zed ult, One shot an adc or apc, chase down a hecarim, and melt a nautilus..

Of course the trade is that you dont want to be in team fights because you're squishy, you'll just get focused down... you'd rather be figure 8ing the map split pushing all three lanes by carelessly spamming your ghostblade and q to travel faster, one e will take out a minion wave before it even forms up so just spin down a line in top lane, then q to leave and go mid, take a wave, go bot or top again, all lanes will be pushed up meaning you can actually pick which tower to take rather easily (I go for the one furthest away from my team because i assume the enemy team will be near my team)

take a turret, kill the response team one by one by leading them through the jungle like predator, and then going for the next turret...

this is a 1v1 split push god build, but you have to escape the lane phase with it.

I can't think of a single better split pusher than the crit garen build i proposed, because he is everywhere, and people are afraid to respond to him unless they have a full team... so if you're top lane taking second turret, and the enemy team responds to you, and you specifically picked top because your team is all bot.... then you win, two towers for a death is a good trade regardless of your bounty. If the enemy team decides to face your team, you can just keep pushing because you can take a second turret before they end the fight, and you have a pretty good chance to get out.

the down sides to this build? Squishy as hell, like so squishy...

I wouldn't recommend charging an ad carry with this, but you can kill most people before they can take you down to half health, and you don't build any health outside of last item triforce (With the item slot going for a sheen)

Enemy holed up under turret? You can actually pop your ghost, E them, Ecancel, q proc, and get out.