So....who uses Stormraider's Surge?

"what an assassin really wants is this short speed boost with a cooldown instead of reliable burst from thunderlord's" -riot

Nasus

immobile mages, this way dealing damage can actually let them escape a bad battle.

It's the only keystone I use on Talon. It's very important to help close a kill or get away after getting one. Combined with the speed boost from ult, it's very useful. Especially because I go crit/movespeed Talon. (Youmuu, IE, ER, Shiv, PD, swiftness boots) Two shot squishies. Since I'm so squishy, I need all that extra movespeed from those items and the keystone to get away, or chase them after they flash while I'm in stealth.

No other mastery is useful to an experienced Talon player.

If you are a new Talon player, Thunderlord's will probably benefit you more, as will defensive items. But I've mained him since Season 2, so I know exactly what I'm doing and why.

Nobody.

Who is this mastery designed for? Champions that deal high burst damage, but have low mobility. That's a burst mage. But when it comes down to it, more damage is always better than just about anything else. That MS may be helpful for avoiding a target you failed to burst down, or to chase down a target you failed to burst down, but TLD adds more damage so you have less chance of failing in the first place. When your job is the burst down enemy champs, you value damage above all else.

So as long as this mastery tries to compete with thunderlords, it's going to remain unloved. Maybe if the ability were something like "Land three (six for ranged) auto attacks on a single champion and gain X% MS for Y seconds" to help melee champs stick to targets, it might be worthwhile.

No one. Let's face it, there are 2 cases:

1. You got to unload a full damage rotation of your abilities. In this case, the dealing more damage was better since you managed to do your big damage anyway, so sticking to them a little longer wouldn't matter all that much.
2. You couldn't stay close enough to them enough to hurt them all that much. Well then, guess what, Stormraider's Surge doesn't even activate.

It's a tool to let you stick to a target, but it only works on targets you were already able to stick to, so what's the point?

You can also chase people who flash without burning your own, and escape at Mach 5 after killing someone.

Honestly it's not bad at all.

For me, I use it as TF.

The idea is that it helps me to disengage from trades, stick onto foes, hit and run, or to create distance when running from someone I stunned. TF has enough burst to proc Stormraider's Surge, yet I'm more focused on killing off runaways and setting up coordinated kills than I am with actually dealing damage.

(But what do I know? I suck at LoL.)

I like it on Nidalee because I can go Q>R>WEQ without having to worry about not being able to catch up. Likewise, it's also nice to be able to Q and instantly be able to run away without a hope of them catching me without something like Talisman or ghost.

I think people are sleeping on this mastery honestly. Yes it's conditional but if you're fighting at all the condition is not that hard to achieve. And the boost isn't some shitty little MS boost like people are making it out to be. 35% for 3s is INSANE: for reference, Evelynn's W is 30% for 3s until level 14. Overall I think people just go a little too crazy when they see damage, because what champ DOESN'T want damage, right? Well, don't knock it till you try it.

Honestly, by itself it's a pretty good mastery, it's just overshadowed by Thunderlord's. I would prefer it being like a Tier 4 Mastery (with Bandit and Dangerous Game) but weaker.

I use it on Vel'Koz. Vel'Koz has low AP scalings, so Thunderlord's isn't the best on him. He also does more than enough damage. What he lacks, however, is mobility. If I land my EWQ combo on someone, I get a massive speedboost that helps me put distance between my enemy and kite them extremely effectively. I can also get away from a sticky situation, like a Xin Zhao jumping onto me.

I think Stormraider's Surge is a great addition to any high-damage mage that doesn't have escapes.

honestly I think it's pretty good on burst mages like viktor or annie because it helps them kite back and forth just by doing damage and the cool down fits nicely fith their full spell rotation which is usually like 10 seconds

It's more of a late game thing than it is early. Late game the speed can actually allow you to run out of fights. Though we all know late game is a myth now.

I use it on . I like it because it allows me to do my damage then run away quickly or chase someone down and finish them off. Movement speed is important on Annie due to her short range abilities and it helps make up for her lack of escapes and mobility. Most people prefer deathfire touch but Annie does enough damage as it is IMO. She receives a reduced effect compared to a lot of other mages since 2 of her 3 offensive spells are AOE.

Actually it's good on talon and rengar

Actually sometimes i use it on It's fun to get 800 and more movespeed with your passive :D

I can only imagine they designed it with someone like Rengar in mind. Who just has to get the hell out after blowing up the adc

really cut my time to walk to jungle after ganking. And that's my escape and sticking tool when my Q and R are on cooldown

I initially used it on LeBlanc and Syndra, but Thunderlord's has won out. At least for now. I think Stormraider's Surge is good, but I worry it's not good enough. It was either Ghostcrawler or FeralPony that said those who use stormraider's surge have better outcomes, but more people are using TLD because it's SO strong (and probably OP).

Now that it had its cd nerfed a bit, I think maybe the trade off is better. On the other hand, I think most people favor BIG DAMAGE over something seen as more boring like movespeed. It can definitely help you out, but I think in the end it will just come down to preference.

My cousin uses it on Talon, says it helps him get in and out of fights real quick because the other "damage" masteries require too much stacking for a burst assassin and DoT's are useless

shrug

I used it on Poppy pre-rework since movespeed was one of the most valuable stats on her, and the Q proc'd it immediately.

100-0 a squishy, get the hell outta dodge

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I used it once on katarina. Got destroyed by a lux with thunderlords drecree, so I started using that myself and Im not going back.

Now I personally think the only one who could really benefit from stormraiders surge is annie or some champ like her. I MEAN HER BURST IS HUGE BUT HAS NO SCAPE AND NO MOBILITIE.

But its gonna be buffed. Check it out in surrender at 20. Its gonna be viable now :D

Ok I have here the changes in case you guys are too lazy to search for it:

Stormraider's Surge (Cunning, Tier 6) Movement speed bonus increased to 40% from 35% Now also grants 100% slow resistance for 3 seconds Time frame to deal damage increased to 2.5 seconds from 2

Actually I think if that change stays Id give it a try again on Kat, the 100% slow resistance could counter