I'm finally winning again.
So was Riot trying to force me lower? Was I just having bad games? Was match making screwing me? Cause it's night and day from what it was 2 weeks ago. Did I get worse and then better?
I'm sure people have had similar experiences. Discuss
Irelicant10 votesRiot matchmaking has a disgusting logic. The goal of riot will always be to force you to win and lose 50% of your games. MMR is their way of ensuring they can do this.
Eedat5 votesNo it doesn't. You even out to 50% win rate as you approach your true MMR naturally.
Barcid2 votesThat's in a fraction of games. Most times you end up getting someone in an off-role or somebody clearly way above their League. In fact, that fraction that's happening? That's them. THAT player is "evening out" based on their true MMR. And YOU get to suffer for it.
Me getting a 90% winrate (recently) gold 4 in a Plat 1 game who's only 90% because, oh I dunno, he's been playing against fucking silvers and golds? That's not me getting "even'd out", that's me getting fucked.
That support main autofilled into jungle who doesn't say a word? That's getting fucked. The D4 boosting his G4 buddy whose head was recently caved in? That's getting fucked. That unranked that was performing pretty well in completely unstructured games? That's getting fucked.
That excuse you're making is utter bullshit and you know it deep down.
sphinxthelion75 votesNo that is the hidden MMR trying to unsuccessfully adjust your handicap with crappy matchmaking. Also prob, some badluck.
BigFBear3 votesThis 50% conspiracy is complete trash. Riot doesn't want to "FORCE" you on 50%! It is just math. If you climb you will hit your skill-cap some day and then your winrate goes down to 50% because you play vs players on your skill-level. The reason why there are huge losing streaks is because if you climb and win a lot (maybe a bit with luck too) your hidden MMR don't make little steps, it makes huge steps. It's like: "oh he won 8 out of the last 10 games in Silver 3? Better put him in Silver 1 games" "Oh he won most of his S1 games too? Ok then... let's put him in Gold 3" Remember, it's only your HIDDEN MMR, not your real rank. Your real rank is still in Silver. So now you play in G3 matches while your skill is probably just G4. That means that the last step that hidden MMR made was a bit too big. So, now you lose because games are too hard for you untill your hidden MMR drops into Gold 4 where you belong.
Got it?
Düff McWhalen3 votesThis 50% conspiracy is complete trash. Riot doesn't want to "FORCE" you on 50%! It is just math. If you climb you will hit your skill-cap some day and then your winrate goes down to 50% because you play vs players on your skill-level. The reason why there are huge losing streaks is because if you climb and win a lot (maybe a bit with luck too) your hidden MMR don't make little steps, it makes huge steps. It's like: "oh he won 8 out of the last 10 games in Silver 3? Better put him in Silver 1 games" "Oh he won most of his S1 games too? Ok then... let's put him in Gold 3" Remember, it's only your HIDDEN MMR, not your real rank. Your real rank is still in Silver. So now you play in G3 matches while your skill is probably just G4. That means that the last step that hidden MMR made was a bit too big. So, now you lose because games are too hard for you untill your hidden MMR drops into Gold 4 where you belong.
Got it?
Pretty sure you're wrong, look at this.
Went from EVEN GAMES, back to COMPLETE STEAM ROLL in the span of a couple wins. THAT is blatant forced 50% winrate.
BigFBear1 votesBad matchmaking doesn't mean FORCED 50%.
Ofc matchmaking is trash this season. Games are uneven as fuck below Dia and there are Smurfs in almost every game. So it's coinflip. That means you can't influence your game (especially if you play non carry). And coinflip matchmaking means 50% wr. Because in one game enemy's have the Smurfs in the next game you have the Smurfs.
But that doesn't mean that Riot force you on 50% by intentionally give you bad teammates if your wr is too high. There are Master Smurfs who climb from Silver to Dia with 90% + winrate. Where is THEIR forced 50%??
SuperTopLFBottom3 votesThis 50% conspiracy is complete trash. Riot doesn't want to "FORCE" you on 50%! It is just math. If you climb you will hit your skill-cap some day and then your winrate goes down to 50% because you play vs players on your skill-level. The reason why there are huge losing streaks is because if you climb and win a lot (maybe a bit with luck too) your hidden MMR don't make little steps, it makes huge steps. It's like: "oh he won 8 out of the last 10 games in Silver 3? Better put him in Silver 1 games" "Oh he won most of his S1 games too? Ok then... let's put him in Gold 3" Remember, it's only your HIDDEN MMR, not your real rank. Your real rank is still in Silver. So now you play in G3 matches while your skill is probably just G4. That means that the last step that hidden MMR made was a bit too big. So, now you lose because games are too hard for you untill your hidden MMR drops into Gold 4 where you belong.
Got it?
That's assuming every player has the same chances to carry which is not the case. Role power distribution currently is just hilariously imbalanced as it has been for a few years now.
BigFBear1 votesOk, but that's a different thing. Has nothing to do with forced winrate.
Criamulus3 votesI'm currently on a terrible streak of games, 1 win out of about 15, was on a very high win%, now under 50%. I did notice some problems in my game where I'd not been as diligently as before, so I've been improving that. (Actually that was simply following idiots to their deaths when they're overextended - now it's a case of just let them die and accept I can't save their stupid asses) - but despite playing well and often ALMOST carrying the game, feels like I'm being placed with absolute idiots, can't get a win. I'm dropping down the ranks, going to get thrown back into the hell of Bronze soon.
Dracocrash2 votesMany factors could have come into play.
These are some of the things I've found to effect my streaks, could be something entirely different for you.
If people tell you riot matchmaking is controlled by sentient lizard people that secretly target players to force them into a 50% winrate, dont listen to them. It's pretty simple, If you're better than your current ELO you will climb, if you're not you will stay in the ELO you belong. Players who are amazing/smurfs can climb quickly, players who are only slightly better than their elo will climb more slowly, but they will.
GodlyBane1 voteswent from gold 3, 80LP, gaining 20 a win and losing 15, to gold 4, 0 LP gaining 15 a win and losing 19 within the span of a day (Maybe 2 at best) I am not going to get out of gold 4 no matter how many games i win now because on loss sets me back 2 games. 2 losses 3 games. 3 losses 5 games. I cannot get out of gold 4 because I got put into impossible to carry games, and Riot sees it as my problem i wasnt diamond 2 level and couldnt carry those games. The minimum LP you should win is 18. the minimum you should lose is 16. there should be fucking caps
lifeisnotdaijubu1 votesyo m level 32 m excited to play ranked i lost all my placments and won 1 now m bronze 1 3 wins 18 loss 14 percent win rate what should i do pls ? in fact in my ranked games m playing vs level 100 + mastery 6 or 7
The Highest Noon1 votesMatchmaking is trash and needs a massive upgrade. When's performance-based matchmaking? This whole Win/Loss based nonsense is nonsense.