Here's a list of some fair and justified Yasuo nerfs

Jinzo Torrance··72 votes·2,722 views

Delete him

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Tormentula26 votes

I'm on board for this.

GULAG 4 U5 votes

It's sarcastic lol.

Tormentula29 votes

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It's sarcastic lol.

thats the sad part :(

GULAG 4 U7 votes

Sounds like someone refuses to play around Yasuo's kit....

Tormentula9 votes

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Sounds like someone refuses to play around Yasuo's kit....

I really don't care, its not hard to counter yasuo its just fucking cancer. I could live without it.

There's no such thing as a "weak patch" for yasuo since most of his success is from an unpredictable dash or an unpredictable windwall he saves until he's 2 hp and then deals 100% with ult, Q, auto dash and shield reset..

I'd rather not be forced to take summoner 3 every single time I lane vs. one, even if I win the lane literally every single time I ever play vs. yas. As satisfying as it is to pick lane Elise with summoner 3 and kill a yasuo behind his windwall, anytime I have one on my team I get cancer knowing he sucks, and whenever I see one on the other team I get cancer knowing he's a god.

GULAG 4 U5 votes

Eh S5 43% winrates lol.

Also Yasuo's combo is typically EQ-AA-ULT-AA-Q And that doesn't really 100-0s until he gets 2 items and even then I'd be surprised really.

Tormentula7 votes

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Eh S5 43% winrates lol.

Also Yasuo's combo is typically EQ-AA-ULT-AA-Q And that doesn't really 100-0s until he gets 2 items and even then I'd be surprised really.

lol i installed preseason. Nice try.

I specifically remember victorious sivir being released and then wanted to immidiately start ranking and went silver 5 afterward and then got a season reset lmfao. Idk why I'm hearing that from an unranked season five and a silver 3 season 6 anyway... thats funny actually. Not that ranks matter but still funny.

I have every right to complain about a toxic champion the community generally hates, we'd all like something done and deletion is a joke even though some people really want him fixed to the point he's not yasuo anymore, and right now his kit is toxic af.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

I installed in july 2015 so yeah.....

And it's not a myth that Yasuo has gotten 43% winrates. I'm just saying that when you say yasuo was never weak, that statement is false.

FantasySniper12 votes

He was never weak, he's just massively overplayed.

Yasuo's weakness is determined almost entirely by the skill of the one playing him.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Being good as yasuo counters hard cc, fuck logic.

FantasySniper2 votes

Well, yeah...

He has a skill that blocks a great majority of hard CC, some of which don't even make sense as projectiles (Like Lulu's Whimsy, Hecarim's Onslaught, etc. Hell he blocks the Mikael active for shits and giggles.). Hard CC that isn't blocked is few and far between, and they almost always require you to launch yourself into melee range and/or pray that Yasuo stands still long enough for the delay to pass.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Windwall has no downtime, and there are totally no ccs that pass the windwall, fuck logic round 2.

It doesn't block's hecarim's E.

FantasySniper1 votes

I don't know. Where did all those CCs go?

And Windwalls downtime doesn't matter if the CCs' downtime is still long enough for Yasuo not to care.

Spaceman5pff15 votes

"unpredictable wind wall"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxtDg1tCgZk

You mean BROKEN wind wall. Not broken as in annoying, broken as in it is functionally flawed.

VoraciousX1 votes

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"unpredictable wind wall"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxtDg1tCgZk

You mean BROKEN wind wall. Not broken as in annoying, broken as in it is functionally flawed.

I knew there was some sort of BS with Yasuo's wind wall. He can cast it when abilities I've used are right on top of him and still avoid damage. That is so annoying when it happens too. It's like it grants him immunity to projectile damage the second he casts it no matter where the wall is facing.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Yeah I don't so much mind the instant cast, but the ability needs to start in front of him, not in the center, so that he is forced to use skill and aim it to block projectiles.

Given how Yasuo mains defend him as difficult, they should be welcoming a change that will give them a right to such a claim.

manbearswine1 votes

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Yeah I don't so much mind the instant cast,

Well, I very much do.

Stupid easy reflex check ability shouldn't exist.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Braum shield is instant cast. Janna E is instant.

Many defensive abilities are instant cast, the difference is, you have to aim those. Yas wall just blocks any which way at the moment of cast, making it not start at his center would fix that.

manbearswine1 votes

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Braum shield is instant cast.

Braum redirects damage and cc, yasuo just negates it. Braum also isn't a melee adc, and doesn't have an easy way to get to you, so you aren't under pressure to kill him or die in a short window of time. Oh and it also costs mana, meaning he isn't trading just cds for mana and cds, but trading mana and cds for mana and cds.

Janna E is instant.

Janna's shield can be broken, windwall cannot, janna's shield also costs mana and a big chunk of it, and once again, janna doesn't put you in a "kill me fast or die" scenario.

Many defensive abilities are instant cast, the difference is, you have to aim those.

No, it's mostly the counterplay to them and the options to deal with them. Janna's shield is meant to be broken, she doesn't deal much damage and negates it instead, braum redirects things, which in many cases just means nothing(if it's a single target skillshot), aside from that it's damage mitigation on a tank(tanks tank, more news at 11), yasuo forces you to fight or die then negates your options to fight back. Remember when talon and kassadin had silence? Remember why they don't have it anymore?

Yas wall just blocks any which way at the moment of cast, making it not start at his center would fix that.

This is such utter crap I can't believe people keep saying this shit. No, all it will do is give him some more room to outplay himself, you would still be completely reliant on him messing up, that's shit design, he needs more tools to be dealt with even when he isn't incompetent, that has always been the number 1 complaint about him(phrased in different ways), and this has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

If you don't think that the wall starting at his center is a problem, you need to rewatch the video I linked at the top of this thread.

He threw his was the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of the projectile and still blocked it from hitting him. There was no possible way for him to aim that wall that would have been less correct, but he still blocked the projectile.

EDIT: If you pay attention, you can see the Yasuo player is chat restricted, which I find funny because it does a wonderful job of perpetuating stereotypes.

manbearswine1 votes

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If you don't think that the wall starting at his center is a problem, you need to rewatch the video I linked at the top of this thread.

It could easily just be the usual bug of skillshots not affecting people randomly, because it's should've dealt damage by the time he blocked it.

He threw his was the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of the projectile and still blocked it from hitting him.

Wait, wait ,wait, so are you telling me that yasuo messed up? Oh no, much weakness, very counterplay, overused ancient meme, wow. Maybe, just maybe, yasuo's opponent shouldn't be completely reliant on yasuo mesing up? How about that?

There was no possible way for him to aim that wall that would have been less correct, but he still blocked the projectile.

EDIT: If you pay attention, you can see the Yasuo player is chat restricted, which I find funny because it does a wonderful job of perpetuating stereotypes.

I'm not sure if yasuo players are known for their toxicity, that's more of riven vayne thing. Anyway, most of the complaints boil down to the fact that everything is up to yasuo(unless he's counterpicked), and if he plays well you can't do shit, changing this won't fix that.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I haven't heard of Ezreal ult randomly not affecting people. But W/e

YES Yasuo messed up, and he should be punished for it. The issue is that he wasn't because of the center-start mechanic.

Well the Yasuo's I play with are definitely toxic. It seems to be a common things amongst mechanically intense AD champions. Riven Vayne LeeSin Zed Yasuo

manbearswine1 votes

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I haven't heard of Ezreal ult randomly not affecting people. But W/e

YES Yasuo messed up, and he should be punished for it.

It's quite possible that he would've if not for the bug.

The issue is that he wasn't because of the center-start mechanic.

Seriously, what's this obsession with giving him one more very small window to outplay himself in? It's not gonna solve any of the serious issues he has, if he used it in the right direction and negated it would you go "oh yeah now it's totally kewl that he just negated ezreals ult like that"?. It's a very minor(because it only means something if yasuo does something extremely stupid) issue which is far from his core problem, does it look stupid? Sure. Will it make yasuo even slightly less obnoxious to play against? No, as what makes him so obnoxious is that everything is up to him and you can't do shit if he doesn't mess up, this won't change that at all.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Any weakness that should exist in Yasuo's kit, but doesn't, is a problem that needs to be fixed.

I do agree Yasuo is terrible to play against and offers virtually no interaction save for a few matchups, but I think you might be a bit overzealous here.

manbearswine1 votes

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Any weakness that should exist in Yasuo's kit, but doesn't, is a problem that needs to be fixed.

Here's the thing: the weakness of "yasuo is weak if he messes up" is already there, and it's probably his biggest "weakness"(unfortunately, not a real weakness), so meh.

I do agree Yasuo is terrible to play against and offers virtually no interaction save for a few matchups, but I think you might be a bit overzealous here.

I think you've just played too much against bad yasuos who can't do consistently what they are supposed to, since I play in a higher level people here know better how to use their champion and not mess up things which they are not supposed to mess up(like throwing windwall in the wrong direction, or failing to block skillshots with more than a 0.4 seconds travel time), and I can assure you that yasuo is one of the hardest counters to probably the biggest subset of champions out of all hard counters out there.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

"Good Yasuo players shouldn't mis-aim windwall"

Ok but when they do they should be punished!?!?!?

manbearswine1 votes

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"Good Yasuo players shouldn't mis-aim windwall"

Ok but when they do they should be punished!?!?!?

Sure whatever, it won't solve or improve anything though.

Again my point is that it's not the problem, and is has a pretty negligible effect on the state of yasuo, hence I don't understand the obsession with it.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Because there are many more situations were maybe yasuo misses by 90 degrees. He still should be punished for that.

You should always face some sort of consequence for missing your ability.

There are MANY times that yasuo should be punished but isnt.

manbearswine1 votes

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Because there are many more situations were maybe yasuo misses by 90 degrees.

90 degrees is still a huge miss, this is incredibly rare.

He still should be punished for that.

Again, sure, whatever, won't solve or improve anything though.

You should always face some sort of consequence for missing your ability.

It's not even missing it, it's not the sort of thing which even can be missed, it's basically misclicking it, which is very different, missing implies that it's something the opponent can work around, yasuo's windwall is instant and huge, maybe you can try and work around it after it's already cast, but it's really not something you can make him miss.

There are MANY times that yasuo should be punished but isnt.

Like what? This one definitely isn't it, throwing windwall in the wrong direction is a show of complete incompetence and as such is extremely rare.

LankPants10 votes

"Outplayed"

-Yasou mains

Robrono3 votes

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I really don't care, its not hard to counter yasuo its just fucking cancer. I could live without it.

There's no such thing as a "weak patch" for yasuo since most of his success is from an unpredictable dash or an unpredictable windwall he saves until he's 2 hp and then deals 100% with ult, Q, auto dash and shield reset..

I'd rather not be forced to take summoner 3 every single time I lane vs. one, even if I win the lane literally every single time I ever play vs. yas. As satisfying as it is to pick lane Elise with summoner 3 and kill a yasuo behind his windwall, anytime I have one on my team I get cancer knowing he sucks, and whenever I see one on the other team I get cancer knowing he's a god.

If Yasuo bothers you that much, you could take a look at Trinimmortal's Yasuo guide, he gives some good tips for beating up Yasuo later in the vid.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Sorry but if i need to build my whole comp around the enemy yasuo to stop and even need to read guides about how to beat him something is wrong with this champ. The last time i read guides was back as our HC/nim raidlead in Swtor on how to kill a boss. So i guess yasuo is just the raidboss in LoL. Got it.

Spicy Rice2 votes

If you can't inherently figure out how to play against yasuo except by building an antiyasuo comp, then you definitely need a guide

redfeenix1 votes

Heh... cuz you're on the boards

Best Kog NA20 votes

Sounds fair

Davarril6 votes

I'm so sick of Yasuo threads.

Honestly, just stop.

FantasySniper22 votes

I'm so sick of Yasuo.

Honestly, just stop.

Robrono2 votes

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I'm so sick of Yasuo threads.

Honestly, just stop.

I agree, I wish people would find something else to bitch about. Can we just go back to complaining about Teemo?

Tormentula8 votes

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I agree, I wish people would find something else to bitch about. Can we just go back to complaining about Teemo?

Teemo hasn't been a problem in forever, the only thing people complain about him anymore is how toxic the adverage teemo playerbase is (usually trolling) or how weak of a champion he is in most scenarios.

Robrono2 votes

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Teemo hasn't been a problem in forever, the only thing people complain about him anymore is how toxic the adverage teemo playerbase is (usually trolling) or how weak of a champion he is in most scenarios.

To be honest, I just want people to complain about something that isn't Yasuo, there are just too many posts about him in my opinion.

420 grams7 votes

If he changed to what most people want, then people would stop complaining as much.

Leetri5 votes

Most people on the boards won't stop complaining until all assassins are deleted from the game completely, ADC's are useless, tanks unkillable and Galio the only viable champion. Yasuo is pretty balanced now, but that doesn't stop the complainers from complaining.

420 grams3 votes

True. But I disagree that yasuo is balanced. He's the only champ I've ever really thought isn't and deserves some Nerf

Vistha Kai2 votes

I've considered him balanced beginning in 2014 after he got nerfed like 6 times in a row.

I mean, I still had literally zero problems playing against him with pretty much any champion I played, but in 2015 I realized he's actually garbage-tier.

I don't think I've met one Yasuo player since then who made me think "I wish I had banned Yasuo". The only thing that I could think about was "I wish I was mid/top against Yasuo instead of that moron".

Honestly, if I could somehow check my record against Yasuo, I'd have like 80% winrate, because he's that abusable, if you allow yourself to think differently for a moment.

Leetri2 votes

Right now he's hovering 49-52% win rate both top and mid, so he's neither too strong nor too weak. I'd say that's a pretty good state to be in.

Robrono2 votes

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If he changed to what most people want, then people would stop complaining as much.

Only problem is that most people want him to be nerfed so hard it's impossible to win with him.

manbearswine2 votes

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Only problem is that most people want him to be nerfed so hard it's impossible to win with him.

Well that has been done before to champions with incredibly obnoxious kits, which is kinda what people are getting at, so...

Naturally a complete rework would work too, but that could be seen as a different interpretation to "delete him", I mean we can fairly say old poppy was deleted.

Robrono1 votes

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Well that has been done before to champions with incredibly obnoxious kits, which is kinda what people are getting at, so...

Naturally a complete rework would work too, but that could be seen as a different interpretation to "delete him", I mean we can fairly say old poppy was deleted.

I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think he is as bad as people say. Yes, before his nerfs he was busted, but now he has been brought into line, and people just want something to complain about, and Yasuo is an easy target.

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