Please I just need a bit of help

ForgottenLuck··1 votes·322 views

Please I really want to play skarner but I just feel he is too weak at the moment, I don't know if I am playing him poorly or what but I feel I can't do anything worthwhile with him, I usually go pure tank with him maxing Q first, then going W, is there something wrong with how I am playing him? A guild would be most helpful. Thank you

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Treeofwar3 votes

skarner is really good right now

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Ok you don't really help but ty

Astôlfo3 votes

Skarner is incredibly strong. He's just out of meta supposedly and underplayed/unpopular at the moment.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Ok you don't really help but ty

adidas2 votes

Idk what to say except one thing. In my elo ( plat 2 ) people that play skarner usually carry imo hes a great champ.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Ok you don't really help but ty

Bhagswag2 votes

Max E first. Then W or Q is your choice. The thing with Skarner is that your ult is good, but without flash, it's sometimes hard to get in their face.

Also make sure you're not letting his Q interrupt your auto attacks. Make sure you let him auto, and THEN Q. If he's auto attacking, don't press Q. Press it after. It's just a good way of squeezing in more damage.

Late game, make sure to somehow bait out the ADC's QSS. You can do that by throwing your E. He'll have to choose between being caught and stunned, or popping his QSS to just run away before it happens.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

thank you, you are the first use full comment any tips for builds? like does pure tank still work or should I build like BC or Sterak's, and question if you max E first how does your jungle clear work?

Bhagswag1 votes

The general rule is that if you have a bursty damage dealer in Mid or Top, then you should full tank. IF you have a super tanky top, you can try experimenting with Trinity force and Black cleaver. But never NOT build armor and magic resist. Skarner just can't survive without it.

Also, start with the hunter's talisman. When you Q, it steals health from all jungle monsters in the camp. It's better for him in my opinion.

Finally, try buying the ward smite. As Skarner, you need control of the map and your spires. Keep an eye on everything.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

thank you very much

Sightless661 votes

does pure tank still work or should I build like BC or Sterak's

Triforce. You should be buying triforce. He has extremely high base AD, and gets sheen procs on cooldown, and all the other stats work well too. Since the triforce changes it has been superior to cleaver in the vast majority of scenarios. Sterak's is fine if you're up against a good amount of burst and you can afford to get a little more offense.

Your clear is fine maxing E. The large majority of your damage is coming from autoattacks in either scenario. You'll still be clearing quickly without taking any damage.

ForgottenLuck1 votes

I used to play pre-rework juggernaut ska as a pure tank and it did quite well I have not really gotten that success after his rework though

Fududles1 votes

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Max E first. Then W or Q is your choice. The thing with Skarner is that your ult is good, but without flash, it's sometimes hard to get in their face.

Also make sure you're not letting his Q interrupt your auto attacks. Make sure you let him auto, and THEN Q. If he's auto attacking, don't press Q. Press it after. It's just a good way of squeezing in more damage.

Late game, make sure to somehow bait out the ADC's QSS. You can do that by throwing your E. He'll have to choose between being caught and stunned, or popping his QSS to just run away before it happens.

#Yes max e first but for early game jungle clear ull want at least 2 points in your q unless u plan on going for a kill at lvl 4 then do q,e,w,e i suggest the lvl 4 over waiting for lvl 6 u could try a checky lvl 3

#but i do not advise it if you dont have deathfire keystone and red buff

ForgottenLuck1 votes

`3 comments yet none really help me, I just need someone to tell me how he gets strong, where does he start in the jungle, what's his usual build path, or even how does he get strong, this type of info help's not "he is strong you wrong"

Fududles1 votes

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`3 comments yet none really help me, I just need someone to tell me how he gets strong, where does he start in the jungle, what's his usual build path, or even how does he get strong, this type of info help's not "he is strong you wrong"

Theres no one answer the jungle is not a lane... u have to improvise

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Not really there could be some, it's tricky but like how for clearing one should target the smaller creatures first and how kiting is possible I feel like there are forms to help one be a better jungler, especially with tanks

Fududles1 votes

Whats your play style? Do you like to carry - or support

i try to carry as skarner so i go for that early gank

#If the top lane has blue i start at wolves and ask the mid laner for a leash then go straight for red and try for a gank in mid only if your mid has a good handle on the lame and isnt over pushing ,if not start stealing the enemy blue side take the spire and if u did all that fast enough the enemy jungler may be doing wolves and will be very low u want to have e and w if your doing this e so u can stun him and w so you can either get to attacking him faster or if hes not there u have better sustain to steal his camps ( i run deathfire keystone for this)

#If blue is my bottom side go for blu buff first then either straght to red buff and gank top if u have a inkling the top will be a good gank or invade the enemy red if they are definitely starting blu say ur against amumu ... he def started blu.. steal that red and look to gank mid or bot if the enemy if likely in red dont try to kill him go for the gromp after blue and go straight to your red if u think u can gank top if not go for golems raptors back then go for red and gank mid

#Learning the best for you is something only you will learn by yourself... some people just like to play safe get windseakers and farm till u are lvl 6 that is a smart option but be aware skarner is a very much do or die jungler ifyou fall behind it can be reallyhard to come back

Hope that help a lil

#xD

Fududles1 votes

Okay buddy u want a build here u go .... And yes i play a ton of skarner

Start either hunters item ... blade if u start blue ... mana regen one if u start red...

Straight after go for that either sheen if u dont have armor pen runes or go serrated dirk if u do ( i go dirk because i want to get a kill before my lvl 6 but if u just wana farm go sheen)

(This was my rune page) #I highly suggest u get 2 movement speed quints, 1 attack speed quint, all flat cdr glyphs except 1 is attack speed (to help with early crear speed) , #And then your seals go for all armor excet i think maybe one attack speed ( it may have been 2 attack speed seals), and for marks go 7 armor pen with the other 2 attack speed

#Always have tri force as the first completed item

#The rest is really depending on the game you have but be aware skarnes jungle advantage is also a weakness if you fall behind it can be very disabling...

#Dont build attack speed items except tri force that is a huge waste and very much not optimal

ForgottenLuck1 votes

Thanks for the rune page suggestion I feel like the one I currently use on him is a bit useless and this might be nice solution to it.

Fududles1 votes

If u want to jungle you need to improvise..... But the go to is start red with the mana regen hunter item If u want to get early kill but only do this with deathfire keystone otherewise start golem and the hunters knife

ForgottenLuck1 votes

question why star with mana regen item since ur passive basically gives u massive mana regen?

Fududles1 votes

Because if u start red side ull likely be going for a kill or invade and u may not want to get the spire right away and alert the enemy of you presence ((Or u will because ur confident it wont matter and u just want to steal one canp real fast instaed of sneaking all three )...either way ull want that mana regen) <so u can spam them w's)) And once u start spaming abilities and puting more stack on them u may need that mana regen His q may be low mana cost but the w his shield/move boost is definitely not and if u wana get around faster mana is what ull need

People seem to stick to what is familiar( hunters knife aka the original jungle item) instead of what may be best

I dont use mana regen runes with him theyd be a total waste late game and dont help with clear speeds hes a better fighter then a tank People who play him tank go windseakers and thats a good way to play him but just aint optimal

Oh and u were askin item If u like the idea of being that carry skarner after you get your first complete item tri force *which is a must stack ad ... the next item u get just depends on the gold u were able to get before u back... if u got enough alway a b.f. sword !.. but any basic ad item is useful if u like the idead of a mix tank / fighter I dont recomend steraks gage or frozen mallet if u want optimal go for titanic hydra it gives u the health for sustain and insain wave clear .... ( with that ull be clearin camps so fast its .... #OP

#xD Hope that helps Always happy to help people willing to ask fur'eet Tehe

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