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WookieJesuz··1 votes·199 views

Just to start out, I love nearly all of the changes to the PBE marksman. I think the new ideas are great, and will definitely spice up the game.

Some concerns I have with solutions: Graves: Late game, from what I've seen on youtube (correct me if I'm wrong) late game, while graves's autos chunk, it gets a bit akward past 2 autos. Solution - Make his reload scale better with AS

Jungle starting items: I don't necessarily think there was a problem to be solved here. Hunters machete is there to help you kill the monsters early and survive the encounter. Old hunters machete did that. Now, it's split up into two starters, Hunters Talisman and Machete I understand that AA junglers take machete and tanks take talisman, but so far (according to stonewall) it seems like the people who take talisan are getting pusnished with extremely low HP and cleartimes. It's a good idea but: Solution - Make it steal more health. Period.

If any of you guys have concerns or thoughts, please post. Will discuss.

3 Comments

Dreadlocks1 votes

Honestly if these are your only concerns I wouldn't stress. This was the first day and its already been patched once. Once you get your smite upgrade your clears are bullshit good, and with the refilling health pot you dont have to waste countless gold on health pots if for some reason you still arn't sustaining.

Erockandroll1 votes

steals 20 hp over 5 seconds.

machete gets 8% life steal against monsters. That's 8 health for every 100 damage. which would require an output of 250 in 5 seconds. (yet according to the wiki, Maokai sits currently with the highest AD. AT 64AD. and the highest level 1 AS is about .7

this is only about 3 and a half attacks per 5 seconds. 3.5*64 = 224.

So not quite, but close too having the same amount of sustain. (though this doesn't count for runes and masteries)

But it is true that a slower clear will take more damage in the long run. And I thought we learned this when we made Cinderhulk. (that clear speeds can't be a pivoting point of balance.) But My concern with Talisman is why they think 150% mana regen would be a good selling point for the item when we already have blue buff? The only way that would be good is if your the hungriest of mages.

As for Graves, don't actually have a PBE account. But keep in mind that riot will probably preserve Graves as an Early game bull. So they would be less concerned with good AS scaling. (And I don't particularly see anything wrong with a ADC with a more, raw damage focus.)

Pupel1 votes

I think his reloading does scale with attk speed just not as well as it does with his his fire rate

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