If you disagree that these 10 champions are the most healthy and best designed skill champs in LoL..

Indominus Blade·12/30/2015, 7:48:28 PM·5 votes·1,724 views

Then you are a low elo fr00b.

LeeSin Nidalee Zed Ahri Thresh Blitzcrank Yasuo Ekko Vayne Kalista

As diamond 2, I'd rather play vs these champs that take skill and have interaction with enemies than all the other cancerous champs in this game that are toxic 0 skill like Irelia Lissandra Kayle TahmKench Udyr etc etc.

39 Comments

Penns12/30/2015, 8:10:01 PM4 votes

If Thresh had to actually hit his hook or Blitz hook didnt have such a, lets call it strange, hitbox, maybe. Or if there was any counterplay to Vayne lol.

BluePolarizer12/30/2015, 11:20:54 PM3 votes

I'm not sure how Kalista, Vayne or Zed requires skill and has interaction.

Lissandra has equal amounts of skillshots as Zed (1), equal amounts of point and click (2) and equal amounts of self targetted AOE (1). Tahm has more skillshots (2) than Vayne (0) and Kalista (1). Lee Sin has the same amounts of skillshots as Irelia (1) and less than Tahm Kench (2).

Catastrop12/30/2015, 8:36:06 PM2 votes

Ahahah, back the hell of the bae Lissandra, just because she slaughters your assassins doesn't mean you got to sprinkle your salt at her feet....er shards. Seriously though, as a Lissandra main, I bask in the salt of your assassin tears.

SithesisLord12/30/2015, 10:37:24 PM2 votes

Kayle, Udyr and Lissandra cancerous?

I´m starting to think that the only thing that truly changes from low to high elo is the MMR and the shiny border. Cuz you people QQ just as damn hard. And about champions who mostly have supbar kits.

Explain to me how is Lissandra cancerous? Because she doesn´t have the overloaded kit Lee Sin has? Because she actually has to manage her mana pool? Because a point and click 1.5 second stun is too powerful at all stages of the game? Because she can´t do FL4$HYLC$B1GPL4Y$?

How is Kayle cancerous? Because of her no cost, easily beaten ult? Because she takes the mechanical skill known as kiting to be good? Because she does AOE damage and has increased range from an ability and without it, she is useless? Because she can literally cock block everyone of the champions you call healthy and well designed with her entire kit?

How is bloody Udyr cancerous? Because all his abilities are in truth just steroids in some way?

The champions you mention as healthy are easily of the most poorly designed. In some category or another. Kalista's nerfs on the PBE wouldn´t be happening otherwise.

Lee Sin is overloaded as heck. Nidalee is like Kha'Zix. In and out of meta. Zed has the safest laning in the game. Ahri relies to much on her charm to get her full combo out. Thresh's hitboxes are a mess. Blitzcrank's hitboxes are a mess. Yasuo...is Yasuo. Release Ekko was a damn nightmare. Current Ekko is still part of the 3-hit wonder champions. Vayne got nerfed and is barely even as strong right now. Kalista is as cancerous as cancer can possibly get.

The only one that is right to be considered cancer there is TK. And he does take skill. Even the slightest.

The same applies to Kayle, Lissandra, Udyr and Irelia.

Be a good example to the Diamond division and stop QQing over champions who would never even come close to being cancerous.

Really. You´re just embarrassing yourself.

Although to be honest...i think that this sentence is fitting for this thread. And counts as an advice to everyone else: Don´t feed the troll.

ForgiveColour12/30/2015, 10:56:16 PM2 votes

its sad that this list is true lmao

Lucent Rengar12/30/2015, 11:06:36 PM2 votes

qq moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Zyvux12/30/2015, 8:22:55 PM2 votes

You forgot to include Riven and Rengar in your "healthy champs" section. You also misspelled "cancer" as "healthy" for some reason.

Titanium7012/30/2015, 9:37:22 PM2 votes

Two fun facts beforehand. You`re Dia5 now (sucks to as bad as anyone else, huh?... yeah yeah, muh skillz muh scores... dont bother). Three of your 'toxic' Champs are common AntiAssassins coincidence? Sure Kayle and Tham are no prime examples of great design.. but Liss.. really?

But w/e let's discuss your statement.

LeeSin Ahri Ekko Vayne KK Nidalee Well i dont like her but that a personal thing (and shes like 10 times healthier than she was once) Thresh Kalista Are those fantasy Champs. "What does a ADC need? Kiting! Lets make a Champ wo does nothing else." "What does a Supp need? CC, more CC, Shield, Controll, Engage, Disengage, BaseDMG -> Lets make a Champ with EVERYTHING in his Kit." OFC Thats not necessarily toxic, or bad - but it's a diffrence to other (older) Champs in this Game. Yasuo is one of those Champs as well - "We have to make this super fun samurai guy - huh Gameplay? What is this?" And lets be honest his windwall is one of the most stupid abilities in this Game! x'D Come on its a Windwall! No Super-Mega-Deathlaser of Doom which atomizes everything flowing through! He is OK but "most healthy and best designed skill champ"... not really. Zed His laning is obnoxious. Period. (Nothing to discuss here) He is the AD Caster, who is supposed to be an assassin. The guy with so many In-Kit DMG-Amps that even (alot) Zed-Players cant estimate the DMG they will deal. AND (most annoying) it impossible to Snowball against Zed while he can Snowball with ease on you. (and please dont even mention counterbuilding... even IF a champ is useless by buying one Item... that not exactly a proof of good design... more so the opposite) [Additionally Skill and MuscleMemory are two diffrent things in my eyes - but that would be another thread to discuss]

And finally Blitzcrank... a hit or miss Champ literally. He zones by existing. He can miss 10 Qs which all doesnt matter if he hit one the right moment. The dude with most ridiculous passive in this Game (Ult). Sorry... health, design, skill. Not exactly words I would associate with Blitz. I really want to read this explanation! x'D

Z Statistic12/30/2015, 8:20:44 PM1 votes

I'd rather face a bad Udyr instead of a good Lee doe.

Lazypeon10012/30/2015, 8:09:55 PM1 votes

Velkoz ?

ThePartyLeader12/30/2015, 8:08:04 PM1 votes

Here's an upvote even though I'm sure the boards will have this massively negative soon.