@Riot, #LCSBigPlays

Chromatic Eagle·Jan 4, 2015·15 votes·1,147 views

This gets spammed a lot. Not out of affection, but out of a sarcastic, mock protest and critique over the state of balancing. Players feel as if you only care about tournament play, which is why Lee Sin doesn't get the nerfs players have been asking for, and why there are so many knock ups in the current meta. Is there truth to these accusations, or are they baseless? If someone were to accuse Riot of not caring about the lore, or its players, they get defensive, so why haven't we seen the same regarding balance?

16 Comments

KeevalroyJan 4, 20159 votes

You forgot the dollar signs. LC**$BigPlay$**.

In all seriousness, Riot should realize just how much time and effort they spend on the pro scene over everyone and everything else in their game. Yeah it's a spectator sport, yeah we get it, but don't shove it down our throats. When there are problems - be it balance, server, or other, it takes a tremendous amount of time before anything is even addressed, if at all.

Players: "Riot what is your balance team smoking to not do anything substantial to Lee after literal years of being king of the jungle?"

Riot: "Okay we're thinking we cou - WOAH DID YOU SEE THAT PENTAKILL?? #LCSBIGPLAYS!!! Wait did someone say something? Guess it wasn't important."

Players: "Riot, Yasuo is obnoxious and your design team needs to take some major steps back from such overlo -"

Riot: "Yeah nah we're not gonna do that. More active skills means flashier kits. Flashier kits means more opportunity for #LCSBIGPLAYS. #LCSBIGPLAYS means more people will buy our champions."

Players: "We need East Coast servers, they're LONG overdue."

Riot: "Don't worry, we're working on it. Eventually we'll have a place to put them. In the meantime, here's some LCS content clogging the client and don't be afraid, our Leddit drones are hard at work making sure Pro content is plastered on every possible inch of space. Have fun guys, hang in there."

DWT12345Jan 4, 20152 votes

players: Guys, you need to nerf zed. He is just way unbalanced because he's manaless.

Riot: Manaless champions have to recall a lot for mana and they have to wait for their mana to regain. If zed can use his abilities more often, he can make more #LCSBIGPLAYS

Bouffon dAnglaisJan 4, 20152 votes

They also have to invest a lot of money into the Tear of the Goddess upgrades and into Morellonomicon and other mana regen items, because how can a Zed or a Lee Sin build be complete without 3 Tears, 2 Morellonomicon and an Ohmwrecker?

Espy PsycheJan 4, 20155 votes

Do you know what the solution is?

Boycott LCS.

jv21blU7oDJan 4, 20152 votes

I am relatively new to this game and this has been a topic I have seen a lot of complaints about lately so I would also like to know what the deal is.

Duchess of DeerJan 4, 20152 votes

people think zed is op thing is sure you can do well and lane and get kills but the one thing about zed is that he can't carry for his life

view the reason why i don't pick zed in ranked anymore

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1680591832/203169151?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1679854121/203169151?tab=overview http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1664586378/203169151?tab=overview

NoFunWithNunuJan 4, 20152 votes

you are bronze, everything and nothing is viable in bronze, thats why you have shitty team mates like that rylai and spellvamp nami or you building ie on zed while the enemy has armor and you low armor pen.

personal experience dosnt equal a clear judgement, for example me, i hate zed because i know my team mates will pick him and either carry or feed really hard, hence i must ban him, i dont want toxic champs who either snowball (and just wants kills/split push) really hard or just make dead weight, like Riven Zed Yasuo

zed and any other manaless/resourceless champ is toxic AF the should really stop making that kind of champs

Duchess of DeerJan 4, 20151 votes

yes I'm in bronze but I've been playing this game since the end of season 2 Experience > level of play zed is champ who can kills person and get out people forget the fact his ult shadow is not that far away and if your teamates can't lock down a zed in ranked i don't think you should be complaining about my rank

also if a person has energy its better than riven who can spam for days I hate a fed riven more than a fed zed

NoFunWithNunuJan 4, 20152 votes

If you put it thay way, again im ahead of you in experience, since im playing since lux release (i can show you my judgement kayle for proof) but im with you in the fed riven, but mustly the problem is manaless champions at some point became broken af, do you remember when shen the low dmg tank had a state of must pick must ban, or when mordekaiser could almost instakill an adc and proceed to penta with his ghost? vladimir taking no dmg because he could heal any form of dmf in short time, katarina, garen (yes even him), gnar, renekton in the tournaments, dr mundo, the big issue is not only zeds kit, its the lack of punishment for beign dumb, if lets say kassadin the so called cancer of league ults a lot to travel, at some point he will have his mana deployed, meanwhile zed only has to wait cd and few secs for energy, with manaless champs there is no window to rest, riot should stop making manaless champs

Duchess of DeerJan 4, 20151 votes

since this has become a problem with not zed but manaless champs as a whole there is nothing we can do even if we nerf zed the core problem is not him it's the rito gods that decide mana is stupid and slowly turn the game into urf

NoFunWithNunuJan 4, 20152 votes

zed is atm the prime example of why manaless champs with free stats should not be allowed to be in the game, if you pay attention, every manaless champ has a way to boost his role

Vladimir increases his regen with E Garen boosts his tankiness via W and passive Katarina marks her target for great dmg also her resets Gnar has attack speed boost on normal form (if im not mistaken) and mega form is a tank with tons of cc, free stats and spamming Mordekaiser holds his life via shield and armor/mr with his W long enough to kill and take a valuable target with him Dr Mundo gains increased hp regen the more hp items he gets Zac can regen with blobs and go back to life Zed gets free AD with his shadow Yasuo critical with passive

and so on, manaless champs are ment to be the cancer of the league, period

Jeddy017Jan 4, 20152 votes

I was once told that the esports pros only make up about 0.1% of the total player base.If Riot is seriously balancing the game around an incredibly small number of players,then something is wrong. Hopefully,Riot balance has more sense than that & actually considers the rest of the playerbase.

I really don't know if the whole #LC$BIGPLAY$ is actually true.I mean,I'm willing to joke about it with everyone else,but I doubt the balance team is actually that biased.

TheKingDodoJan 4, 20152 votes

We don't think LeeSin does't get nerfs because of tournament plays. We KNOW LeeSin doesn't get nerfs because of tournament plays. Riot cancelled his rework/nerf last april because the pro-players were outraged. Why? Because of changes to their tournament plays. Riot caters to LCS because they need money and LCS is a huge source of revenue.

GlamazonJan 4, 20152 votes

#lcsbigplays became a joke to me when they showed the one of kat that was using scripts.

KeevalroyJan 4, 20152 votes

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#lcsbigplays became a joke to me when they showed the one of kat that was using scripts.

Oh it was a joke long before that.

NarasimhaJan 4, 20151 votes

Because the simple and proven fact is that as players, we have a biased view towards the game. Combine this with basic human psychology, and you see that most of the time, when someone complains about balance, they either have no idea what they're doing, or they're trying to remake everything from the ground up.