Please don't go through with the Nautilus changes on the PBE. I know it will help him scale better, but what he needs is a better early game in the jungle. And these changes make his shield much weaker in the first clears. I love my naut and I'm glad you want to buff him, but please consider other options.
Dr Clueless PhD4 votesFor the last time, this change does NOT make his shield much weaker in his first clears. Before making some claim like that, why don't you run the numbers? I have, as have lots of other people. It's a good change.
Suicide Meme2 votesIt's still weaker for the first few clears. At level 1 it is weaker by 35 health and 3% of his max health.
Dr Clueless PhD3 votesUgh. Fine. I'll do the math FOR you.
Level 1 Nautilus has 576 Health base. 7% of that is 40.32
Which means his shield at level 1 is now 65+40=105. HMM. LOOKS LIKE A BIGGER NUMBER TO ME, COTTON.
The shield at level 1 will be bigger unless you have more than 62.5 bonus health. At that point, 8% of it is 5 (15% old -7% new). You may be thinking "I can break that number easy with Runes and Masteries!" Yes, you can. However, Armor is definitely better for jungle survivability than Health, even on Nautilus. His shield still benefits from Armor, so it's still better to take Armor yellows.
Let's even grab math for level 9. At level 9, Naughty G has 1156 Health. 17% of that is 196.52. So, his level 9 shield is 85+196=281. That is indeed smaller. However, at this point, your benefit from health items is greater than it was before. To reach the old level 9 shield value of 300, we need 2% of your bonus health to be 19. So, you need 950 bonus health. That's quite a bit. However, as Nautilus will build a number of Health items over the course of a game, his shield will ultimately be bigger.
IronChefBoyardee1 votesLOL Naughty G
Suicide Meme1 votesHmm good point. Thank you for dealing with my ignorance :D
TeemoJenkins1 votesIt's still weaker for the first few clears. At level 1 it is weaker by 35 health and 3% of his max health.
Sam can you post your PBE clear times with the new Nautilus change? I see this as a hugely positive buff, but if you have PBE data to back up your statement that it is not a positive, that will help your case.
Knight Devout1 votesIt helps his level 1 ,2, and 3. Then scales a little worse until level 11-13. From that level onward his base health is enough to make the 17%bonus health+85 stronger than 300+15% bonus health.