CoC is even better for tanks than sota was.

it be lìke that·Nov 17, 2016·2 votes·842 views

It's actually just brutally OP, especially on a few champions id like to go a season without seeing again, ( looking at you buttstallion )

sota was decent for jungle tanks because of the hp increase but really there was just nothing else worth taking, but certain non tanks were abusing it and making great use of it (as usual).

CoC is so OP it makes my stomach turn. are the biggest offenders right now that i have seen. It's just too good on already strong champions. Hecarim if left as is will continue to be a highly contested pick/ban for season 7 as well.

19 Comments

OglafNov 17, 20163 votes

Damage has been continuously ramped up through itemization and masteries, meanwhile Resolve tree has been utter trash and nobody cares.

Resolve finally gets a decent defensive Keystone and everybody loses their shit.

Big LincolnNov 17, 20162 votes

grasp was busted at the start of season 6 and a good handful of the masteries are pretty good. sota was must-pick on almost every jungler; the only ones who didn't take it were shaco and fiddle

"finally a good keystone" means absolutely nothing. It is too strong.

JavelinJoeNov 17, 20162 votes

Just like how the Warlords Bloodlust was changed and then re-changed again a few times, same with TLD and Fervor.

it be lìke thatNov 17, 20161 votes

im a zac 1 trick, and even i think this talent is too much, ive seen enough hecarim in season 6 to last a lifetime, and he is even better now. yes, one of the most highly contested junglers all the way up to challenger last season, IS EVEN BETTER NOW. also "defensive"? there is nothing defensive about this keystone, its purely for engage tanks.

tanks have damage too these days, far too much imo, either some damage needs to go or some utility.

RalanrNov 17, 20162 votes

Dude, Hecarim isn't even a tank.

it be lìke thatNov 17, 20161 votes

you wouldnt know that by his build/survivability.

triforce cinderhulk, full tank.

RalanrNov 17, 20161 votes

Tanky==Tank.

Chamuel85Nov 17, 20162 votes

Tanks have high base damages, and relatively poor scaling. This helps them be relevant beyond just having CC.

RalanrNov 17, 20161 votes

It's going to get nerfed. You can count on it.

OglafNov 17, 20161 votes

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It's going to get nerfed. You can count on it.

Yeah, squeaky wheel gets the grease.

JavelinJoeNov 17, 20161 votes

Not to mention that any champion can use it if they have hard CC. So champions like Ekko Velkoz Caitlyn and Ashe , while not necessarily the best option, could benefit from it.

Also, I find that Zac and Alistar are big offenders too.

RalanrNov 17, 20161 votes

I mean, at least Zac and Alistair use it to its full effect.

JavelinJoeNov 17, 20161 votes

Yeah, but gaining that high of a shield is pretty insane given their already powerful engages, especially in the early game. Ali lvl 2 bot engage gives him almost a third of his health as a shield which is insane at that level.

RalanrNov 17, 20161 votes

That's why the shield will most likely be nerfed to at least be reasonable.

Or maybe tanks get something crazy that's countered by avoiding them for four seconds.

JavelinJoeNov 17, 20161 votes

Oh yeah, because I can avoid them after they hard CC me in place for 1-3 seconds, makes perfect sense. I hope something is changed since it makes playing anyone who is not some tanky engage champ pointless because you cant cut through the shield in the time you need in order to win fights or they live with only 25hp but were saved by a 1000+ shield.

OglafNov 17, 20161 votes

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Yeah, but gaining that high of a shield is pretty insane given their already powerful engages, especially in the early game. Ali lvl 2 bot engage gives him almost a third of his health as a shield which is insane at that level.

Liar.

7+7=14

14% is roughly a sixth of his max health.

LegendaryLemurNov 17, 20161 votes

You're forgetting about the base value of the shield. At level 2 it's 30 + 14% not just 14%. For an Ali with Relic Shield that makes it more like 17 or 18%

OglafNov 17, 20162 votes

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You're forgetting about the base value of the shield. At level 2 it's 30 + 14% not just 14%. For an Ali with Relic Shield that makes it more like 17 or 18%

Still nowhere near the 33% that would constitute "a third".

People who so desperately want Courage nerfed do themselves no favour by blatantly lying about it.