Giving it some thoughts, I think Maokai's saplings introduce an odd form of gameplay for a tank.

Ralanr··2 votes·196 views

So we all know that tanks (and their bully cousins, juggernauts) are all big attention hogs right? We go into the crowd of our adoring fans, sign autographs as thrust pens to us for more autographs (such is the life of a star). But Maokai is odd, instead of enjoying the fame he hides and sends his entourage to get noticed, or runs back to them.

Ok, poor allegory aside, Maokai's saplings encourage him to run into brush for his saplings to jump out and hurt people. As a tank this feels rather odd since you want people to focus you and stay in the fight against them. But Maokai doesn't want to stay in the fight if he wants to use his saplings to full effect. He'd much rather disengage and get you to chase him into the forest (because we're all stupid for some reason) so his saplings can get the most out of it.

Is it unique? I guess when you consider tank playstyles. Does it fit thematically? Only in a sense that Maokai is using the forest to empower him. Does it make sense for a tank? No, and it only empowers his AP builds more as some sort of trickster forest spirit instead of a angry treant that will beat you to death his his tree trunk arms.

Idk how you could change this, hell idk if you should. Just wanted to share some thoughts.

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JavelinJoe1 votes

I wish Maokai had even a sliver of alternative game play. That way he would have still been playable in a solo lane with these recent nerfs to his E. But since he does not, he sucks now that the one thing which made him somewhat fun to play, was nerfed into the ground with no significant form of compensation.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

maokai has been bad over all since midseason last season...

he has an average win rate of 46% expect for a patch ago where ap support maokai used a cheeze build and had a win rate of 52%

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well in his original play prior to the ult change that kept the vortex around him ( it use to be you placed it in an area and would fight in that area ) really stupid... he was a jungler only not a laner in any way or form and his E was meant to be use to help clear jungle which it in a way still does that...

Ralanr1 votes

True it does that, though in fights and skirmishes in pvp it feels strange.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

well as a tree main in lane i use it to protect from ganks ... if im being engaged on ill throw one to a bush and move towards it so if they want to continue with their engage i have back up...

i use it to harass from range throwing into a wave as the laner stands there blocked by creeps its a very good poke tool before you engage in a team fight to dive a turret or what have you.

in a trade situation i will use it and throw it behind the enemy's escape route then i will W to them ult so the ult can have time to reach them ( lol so bad ) and then Q them back into the ult if need be and then the sappling will run to them and do more damage i have gotten a good amount of kills like this with ganks and turret dives in lane. i kinda force them between me and my ult and the E and if they get near it the E will do damage and slow them giving an opportunity to cc them with the ult as well

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