Does anyone else feel like adc players are spoilt af now?

Penns·11/23/2017, 6:21:44 PM·24 votes·884 views

I mean just look at this clip for example https://youtu.be/UokNks5HLLI?t=6m6s walks into more than obvious Zoe E, complains about getting oneshot by burst mage. Goes on to say "okay.. full health, under my turret... seems good".

Or https://www.twitch.tv/videos/200321743?t=05h26m05s
walks on obvious dagger, complains about getting killed. Later says "Im strong but I just dont have a chance to play the game against Katarina"...

Why did Riot ever listen to baseless complaints like this about "getting oneshot" by assassins?

17 Comments

Dasdi9611/23/2017, 8:23:43 PM9 votes

This is the reason we had adcs being able to facetank assassins 1v1 last season with lifesteal and massive crits. Adc mains are the most spoiled right now.

Thilmer11/23/2017, 10:22:11 PM7 votes

They have been spoiled for two seasons at least.

Their ítems are a damn joke in terms of eficiency, every ADC buys at least one core ítem for 2600 gold. item 3094 or item 3085 or item 3087

Arakadia11/23/2017, 8:31:36 PM3 votes

Old Assassins didn't usually have daggers or Sleepy Bubbles to dodge or give room for outplay. Thats why Riot listened.

Also you shouldn't paint with such a large brush against ADC players.

Snowplosion11/24/2017, 4:00:45 AM3 votes

This is an LCS ADC main in Solo Queue. He is kinda used to having at least two members holding his hand the entire game.

Linna Excel11/24/2017, 4:39:07 AM3 votes

Well, we just got out of a meta where the only viable supports were the ones that rushed censor. ADCs probably aren't used to playing smart anymore.

AirKingNeo11/24/2017, 5:28:22 AM1 votes

Poor examples. You're somewhat correct, but I think it's more supports being spoiled as fuck and that's just indirectly affecting ADCs.

Zardo11/23/2017, 10:44:58 PM1 votes

You have to keep in mind that a couple of braindead adc players do not speak for adc mains as a whole. People who actually main adc recognize when they get caught out so they can learn from it and improve.

DeleriumTremens11/24/2017, 12:08:57 AM1 votes

If your not diamond or above where support mains actually exist then being an adc main is a nightmare. The biggest issue with being a low elo ad main is your support. Almost every single game you are stuck with autofill supports. Immediately they ask for someone to swap and if that does not occur then 75% chance your stuck with a ziggs, veiger, or lee sin supporting you. It is not enjoyable to be a low elo ad main because you are trying to get better at your position and almost every game your stuck with a support that literally doesnt even give a damn about the lane or helping their adc

If your not playing MF or draven, you pretty much are irrelevant until 15-20 minutes into the game once you get IE+Zeal item. By that time the enemy shyvana has 9 kills and a thronmail. You are better off sitting in lane alone farming while your entire team dies before that. Second off, you get 1 shot every time you make the faintest mistake. You are 2-3 levels up, but you still get 1 shot by a j4 ulti? You are fed, but the 1-9 zed still kills by pressing R and then missing every attack afterwards.

JavelinJoe11/23/2017, 8:18:57 PM1 votes

Well, I think the first clip the hit box of her circle was just on the edge and Sneaky likely thought he could walk by it on the edge. His fault for the risk, but I cant say that many would also not fall for this. However, the point of there being 0 counterplay is a thing for ADCs. Getting MR for ADCs is really hard this preseason with the removal of the flat 15 MR runes. Yet the magic pen is still easy to get for AP champions.

item 3156 item 3139 are the 2 MR AD items and item 3111 . None of these are viable at being a first 2-3 item purchase. The boots maybe, but Ninja are far better for lane since you always are vs an AD champion (the other ADC). item 3020 item 3151 item 3135 are all easily workable items for AP champions, especially the boots, to purchase as a 2-3 item, sometimes even first with .

ADCs have around a flat 30-32 base MR which does not really get higher (around 40). item 3020 and item 3151 alone are 33 Magic pen.

Not saying that ADCs are not nor should not be responsible for avoiding obviously bad conflicts, but they do have quite a struggle with those 0 counterplay situations.