Will talon still build the same items with almost every item he builds being gutted?

Gigahappytown··2 votes·752 views

ghostblade>ie>lw>trinity>hydra>swiftes Or hydra>ghostblade>lw>ie>trinity like some people prefer.

even though some of the items are much less effective i don't see any of the new items being worthwhile.

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LadyRenly1 votes

I personally liked sitting on tiamat and then focus on other things for a while before finishing off RH, I'm really disappointed most of all for the removal of the tiamat passive

Möral Support1 votes

Look at it this way. Talon's build hydra for the activatable for that little extra burst. He builds ghostblade for the speedup while chasing or engage. Trinity isn't a core item on talon i mean its GOOD but its definitely not core. LW isn't being gutted its purpose still stands. Ie sure is being changed but the only reason he gets IE is for the crit chance. That crit chance is now passivly given on items.

Talon right now is HORRIBLE in this meta... but as soon as the marksman meta comes into play, he will become viable like every other assassin.

Thief of Time1 votes

idk i like playing talon alot, and for some reason off the top of my head i see sheen being an item on him because cdr+Q AA burst. Plus he might have to change all around build yea, but that's what every champion has to do when new stuff comes out

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

item 3142 +35 ad

"gutted"

Gigahappytown1 votes

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item 3142 +35 ad

"gutted"

the ghostblade ie combo has 10 more ad big fuckign whoop now it loses 15% crit chance which was literally half of his damage output late game q crit with triniy deleted people it dealt more damage then his w and r combined.

very few people prefer the raw ad over the crit a lot of people benefited from the crit chance more than the ad.

Divewing1 votes

Not to be the wet rag... But honestly that's good. That damage was/is filthy. I don't know what the big deal is, Talons probably only going to get better with these changes. The Tiamat change does fuck all except irritate your waveclear because we only bought it for the active anyway, but now it's cheaper, so it may in fact be BETTER. Yomuus buffs are huge as its core on Talon. Also remember in the new masteries we will get more %Arm.Pen than now. LW is probably the only real hard nerf, but even that gets turned into a grievous wounds item.

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

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Also remember in the new masteries we will get more %Arm.Pen than now. LW is probably the only real hard nerf, but even that gets turned into a grievous wounds item.

You get 1% more armor pen, but LW does nothing to base armor

So every ADC now takes ~27% less damage from assassins now thanks to PD + More armor, not counting all the new items and Death's Dance of course

happy is all1 votes

better pray to RNGsus

as long as crit is a thing in this game, you cant be mad about it

Trebbi1 votes

The ghostblade still retain its flat armor pen and has cooldown reduction aswell.

Not to mention Trinity force has more crit now so you should end up on the samish amount of crit if you build all 3 items.

7ha7guy7771 votes

I would imagine that cleaver, maw, or death's dance would replace LW due to the % pen shifting to bonus armor

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

i built item 3142 item 3035 item 3071 item 3117 item 3031item 3074

Sasogwa1 votes

What about death's dance? It could give him a fair amount of sustain, cdr and some AD, though the burst is weaker than with another build.

MealReadytoEat1 votes

I'm thinking ghostblade then crit is the way to go now. Tiamat is only 1300 gold now, so you can easily get that extra burst. Ghostblade>ER>IE>trinity. 40% CDR, 60% crit, quite a bit of AD. I'm tempted to get statikk shiv for 90% crit and more burst.

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