Can we stop putting slows on every other spell?

Mens Hair Club·9/12/2017, 11:08:20 AM·97 votes·4,095 views

no, just because it has a small windup doesn't mean it needs to cripple you for landing it. Xin Zhao does not need an AOE line slow when he already has a dash (that I'm assuming still slows) and a knock-up, and an AOE knockback on his ult.

Why are slows just the 'norm' and why do they get passed around like candy? This has been out of hand for years now; it's completely unneeded.

110 Comments

TyrekGoldenspear9/12/2017, 1:11:20 PM30 votes

But Lincoln!

People are saying the game is too fast!

What better way to slow the game down than to put slows on everyone! :D

Illâoi Evê Siôn9/12/2017, 2:31:05 PM10 votes

Remember back when Fighters didn't have slows but Phage did? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Silly Neeko9/12/2017, 11:17:01 AM8 votes

So a champion that has literally no cc and is just a walking damage bot.

Sounds good.

Or a champion with just knockup and stun galor?

Sounds good.

Or is it a champion that will 1hko you because their ratios are so high because they have no cc?

Sounds good.

I Main Swain9/12/2017, 5:33:37 PM7 votes

cc in general is out of hand, especially since nearly half of it is immune to tenacity

SEKAI9/12/2017, 12:59:49 PM7 votes

Chicken and the egg question: Was it because of the accessibility/availability of mobility being blown out of proportion that caused the CC creep, or was it the the growing accessibility/availability of CC that caused the mobility creep?

Whatever the case, they scale with and off each other and indefinitely, and it's kinda bad.

Ravore9/12/2017, 7:45:52 PM5 votes

I wish you played against Plat+ Adc's then you'll see why slows are needed. Some of these Adcs are just flat out untouchable unless they're slowed or CC'd because of their range and kite. Xin zhao needs a slow because after he dashes, for example caitlyn will just net and she will never be reached by xin zhao. We can also put in place other Adcs like tristana, ezreal,vayne

TimX24968B9/12/2017, 10:27:00 PM5 votes

Bring back silences and taunts, fears, disarms, and other soft cc instead of just slows.

Karfuss9/12/2017, 9:10:15 PM3 votes

Simple fix is to make displacement effects subject to tenacity.

Tenacity should apply to ALL forms of control. A knock-up, which is effectively a stun with all of the perks and none of the weaknesses, should not be exempt from tenacity and CC removal. If it feels like a stun, acts like a stun, smells and looks like a stun... Then it's a stun. I don't care if it sends me to the atmosphere or has some unique visual effect.

Wolfeur9/13/2017, 8:23:17 AM2 votes

He had a 2s slow before. Now, he has a 1.5s slow and a 0.5s slow. He has as much slow has before, except that he needs 2 spells for that…

Atuko9/12/2017, 8:47:58 PM1 votes

Because slows are such a huge deciding factor in the game, right?

Blackwindy9/12/2017, 6:25:59 PM1 votes

Assassins shouldn't have hard cc. Looking at Riven and Fiora

Kloqdq9/12/2017, 2:10:07 PM1 votes

But like, we don't actually know what it is yet?

General Esdeath 9/13/2017, 6:09:02 AM1 votes

On another note, can we stop adding insane mobility to new champs? Riot is just putting too much shit in at this point. Look at Kayn, he's so overloaded that he can't really excel at any of those fields. If it wasn't for his insane Rhaast passive spellvamp he'd be garbage.

HenzoAF9/12/2017, 12:55:13 PM1 votes

Xin is a better version of Legion Commander :)