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Now that DFG is being removed, Mordekaiser will be nerfed even more

Raid Boss Morde··9 votes·2,607 views

DFG is being removed in 5.2, probably because of the problems that the item has created in League. It makes champions who can already kill you in one spell rotation kill you with half the spells needed (AHEM FIZZ, ANNIE, SYNDRA, KATARINA, LB). I always buy DFG early on Mordekaiser, because he really needs it to kill anyone. It's core... at least I think it is on him.

We all know Mordekaiser's weaknesses... no CC, no MS steroid, no dashes/gapclosers, low range (Mage-Melee). With all of these combined, it makes it really TOUGH to finish off a target if they run. Let's say you start a fight with someone, you start winning the trade, they can just walk away, CC you, dash away, and they'll be fine. The reason that DFG made Modekaiser somewhat viable, at least in my experiences, is that it ensured you would at least get one kill before you died. If you would ever find a way to get into melee range of someone (don't expect to get close to an adc in teamfights), you could DFG + full combo to kill them and get their ghost BEFORE they could run away. Without DFG, I find Mordekaiser's damage to be very lackluster, or at least his burst. After using Mordekaiser for over 300 games or so, I know not to go into teamfights or any fights without DFG and my ult up. He needs it... it's pretty essential to him.

So, if they do end up getting rid of DFG without bringing in a new item to compliment Mordekaiser, they need to buff him. Even now, he still deserves buffs. He's been over-nerfed way too much, and the only reason for this is because he used to be a complete terror. With all of the mobility and CC on every new champion and updated champions, he would be balanced if he was in his old state. Buff Mordekaiser, and get his rework out before DFG is removed.

17 Comments

agbudar4 votes

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With all of the mobility and CC on every new champion and updated champions, he would be balanced if he was in his old state. Buff >Mordekaiser, and get his rework out before DFG is removed.

this is saying a lot im just saiyan,

Der Metzger2 votes

who uses dfg on morde anyways?

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who uses dfg on morde anyways?

Anyone who wants to actually be useful.

Der Metzger1 votes

nah.....dfg morde is a gimmick....but to each their own m8 lol

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nah.....dfg morde is a gimmick....but to each their own m8 lol

The problem is that it's a very POWERFUL gimmick.

xl Kirito lx2 votes

They acknowledged this, I believe, at some point. Something about a rework. At the very least, he'll get compensation buffs since his mid to late game presence is so dependent on it. Hopefully he'll get respectable buffs off of this, and not having Riot telling him to go sit in the corner until it's his time.

Stephenizgod2 votes

i will still play him regardless lol i just feel bad for my teammates it will basically be a 4.5/5

o Majesty o2 votes

Lets be honest tho.. if they do end up removing DFG.. it will basically make all AP Champs trash tier / non-viable.. the mana regen nerfs already hurts alot of mana reliant AP champs becoz now they can no longer spam abilities unlike before and the whole point of playing mana reliant AP champs is to use your skills in the first place right? but anyways if they do end up going through with this change FIZZ, ANNIE, SYNDRA, KATARINA, LB and ALL other AP CHAMPS will never be played.. coz if im gonna play mid when dfg gets removed then tell me why should i go for an AP champ when i can jst play non mana reliant AD mid laners and just shit on my enemy? as if zed and yasuo isnt being played at all and needs more buffs coz they get shitted on all the time by AP mids [sarcasm] and furthermore we'll end up seeing more unorthodox picks for mid aka riven, vladimir maybe even lee or garen? just coz AP champs are not gonna be as good as they used too..

Sukishoo1 votes

DFG on Morde? Say what.....

Raid Boss Morde2 votes

Have you played Mordekaiser? It's actually really good on him. If you DFG then unleash your combo, you can normally 100-0 someone and ensure a ghost. The CDR is also really essential on him.

Sukishoo1 votes

Yeah, I have... but have never once built that on him.

Stephenizgod3 votes

Yep it really boosts his Ults low damage and makes it 100x easier to actually get a kill with it on someone like the ADC. DFG+ULT+Ignite(+E if you can hit them with it)

Sukishoo2 votes

Hmm interesting. Welp, too bad it's going away.

Stephenizgod2 votes

Exacto! hence this post :)

Stephenizgod1 votes

Agreed and i had a small conversation on this with Riot Jag, he said that the problem with Morde is that while DFG is a core late game item, they dont want to worsen the "miserable laning phase" experience when fighting him. When Morde is strong, he is so overwhelmingly strong that farming cs and killing the enemy become the same thing, its like they were just a large minion. The flip side is when he is weak or underfed he will most likely stay that way for the rest of the game. Finding a balance between the two is probably not possible with his current kit so he just really needs a rework, but with the removal of DFG he does need some sort of buff until then, at least to keep him viable late-game.

My temporary solution was to increase the resistance bonus of his W and add a movement speed bonus. Also for him to deal bonus damage to enemies effected by his Ult. I dont think these will really effect his early game laning phase all that much and it will change from he either destroys or gets destroyed to he either destroys or he is behind until he can reach late-game where he will be useful in team fights.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

I actually saw your reply to Jag, and that's a good idea. I agree that is laning phase is good, but that's all he has. Plus, his laning phase is nothing if you're against something ranged. I really do hope that they give him a few buffs once DFG is removed, at least until is eventual rework. Add some CC to his kit, or just give him some increased numbers. He needs something.

Tiax1 votes

Morde dfg is meh, pretty cheesy if you ask me. He deserves buffs, just leave it at that. His kit is so weird that to actually do decently against good players you can get dfg or zhonyas (or void if against heavy mr), not both. We all know that armor and invincibility for a short range immobile mage is better than a delayed one shot especially when that champ excels in aoe...

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