It is actually optimisim which is why people hate Akali.

Irelia Bot·Dec 29, 2018·3 votes·1,975 views

You get her to 10% health and she shrouds it sounds like a free kill if you just wait out her shroud. You know she is in there so you wait in there and then BAM she heals back to about 35% health and then starts nuking you with 3 seconds still on her shroud.

It is almost like old Irelia's E where you get her to 15% health and are about to deliver the last two hits to kill her and then BAM you get stunned and you die instead.

Could be worse. Could be like Pyke where you get to a third health while he is at 10% and then BAM 500+ true damage kills you.

So yeah people hate the BAM reversals. They are often predictable but instinctively you just ignore the reality.

But hey, at least it looks like a good idea.

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6 Comments

D357R0Y3RDec 29, 20182 votes

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You get her to 10% health and she shrouds it sounds like a free kill if you just wait out her shroud.

it is a free kill, I never had an akali with 10% health escaping me

sounds like a ¨¨¨¨¨¨ post

Minimac2000Dec 29, 20181 votes

I agree, but then why are people totally cool with zilean and ekko? They do the same almost gotcha and I haven't seen a ban for either in forever. Is it because they aren't as new? Or does it have to do with them not being as likely to "outplay" the crap out of you and then kill you and walk away with 5 hp because their kits are simpler?

Cats Are FoodDec 29, 20182 votes

Ekko:

He gets low. Your teammate peels around to his clone. He ults. Teammate kills or CCs him. You KNOW he will ult when low. It's his only out.

Zilean:

Stop hitting him when there are timers floating around him. It won't heal him. Kill him after.

The others have a tendency to simply flip the script at will. They can suddenly turn aggressive if they wish, even low, and basically counter act everything you've just done to them, and they easily have time to do so.

TormentulaDec 29, 20182 votes

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I agree, but then why are people totally cool with zilean and ekko? They do the same almost gotcha and I haven't seen a ban for either in forever.

Because both of them are counterable and have significant weaknesses.

Ekko you can predict where he goes due to his shadow, all you have to do is avoid it or aim for it, and even if ekko does run away, he isn't that free since its based on his own position rather then directional dashes/untargability during stealth to weave out. Ekko's ult is also pretty important for his teamfighting damage, so he can be punished for using it if everybody avoids him or focuses him with CC.

Zilean can only cheese people so many times, and sometimes he dies so fast due to being a squishy mage that he can't react to ult, and the revive still holds him or his ally in place to just get follow-upped on, it can be viewed almost like zhonyas in a way, just heals after the effect ends and procs when they die. Everything else he does there are numerous other champions that do it way more annoying.

Akali you have her stealth mechanic, her ranged Q heals, in addition to 3 dashes that can go over walls or gapclose, free trading due to being able to Q empowered AA poke under shroud for free trades, tons of kill pressure, and a mini stun that she can practically guarantee with her E.

I disagree on that being the main reason players ban akali, champs that can just randomly flip the scale aren't really new Renekton Illaoi Warwick Rengar Karthus DrMundo Xayah Riven + several moments, hell probably with everybody in the roster, that random turned a duel. Akali is just broken on top of irritating to play against. I ban her because in my MMR good akalis snowball a lot more frequently and relatively easily due to lack of lane interactivity, and I don't even play lanes. Until her play pattern gets adjusted or she literally sits in the realm of unplayability (and trust me, stats don't mean everything, akali is still very good in higher MMR), I find it hard to believe she'll ever leave ban status unless reworked properly.

I cant say I see ekko or zil bans on a regular basis, they're kinda after thoughts due to how many counters and much more broken champs there are right now.