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Why do you alternate me between teammates that know how to play and teammates that don't?

Inari Fox Orrion··1 votes·1,119 views

I'm genuinely curious. All it does is make me want to promote just how bad you are to your workers and otherwise frustrates me to the point I don't care for financially supporting you, if you can't even invest in a decent matchmaking system of all things. You know how I know it's not that great? Because I've played DotA2. I've played DotA2 a lot. I've played DotA2 for 1,107 hours currently and my MMR is exactly 947. I'm awful... but so is my team, so are my opponents, and... oh, did I mention that I'm awful too? I need to make that part very clear, because I can guarantee you that, when it comes to League, I do not belong anywhere near the same rank as the 2/8/7 Xayah, the 1/6/3 Sylas, the 2/5/3 AFK Vayne, the 2/8/4 Darius, or any number of people who have severely fucked up my last couple matches single-handedly.

When it comes to the difference between how LoL and DotA2 play, at a matchmaking level, I can clearly see how me and the opponents commonly make the exact same mistakes when it comes to our performance. All I see when I play League is my performance remaining relatively similar and devoid of the mistakes they make (especially on a mechanical level) and my teammates drastically fluctuating between decent and poor at random. It isn't satisfying, and it isn't fun.

I don't mean to say I'm the best, but if the people in Silver don't know what Sivir's W does and I do, and if I know how to roam to Mid and kill Ahri twice to get my worthless Mid back into the game (when he just dumpsters the lead by diving her under her tower, go figure) and my enemy doesn't, I should be rewarded. So far, you aren't doing that: you're maybe going to reward me for... um... putting a quarter into the slot-machine? Hmm. I wonder what made LoL popular in the first place... because it certainly wasn't gambling.

17 Comments

Thingamajig3 votes

You are one of those kda creatures give me a second i have an LS clip to show you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyoR9RsgYO8 there was a jungler he reviewed a long time ago silver something with orange kdas too can't find the clip

you are also playing ahri support can't really say you deserve any higher than gold as at that point auto fills will outperform you on your ahri support

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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You are one of those kda creatures give me a second i have an LS clip to show you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyoR9RsgYO8 there was a jungler he reviewed a long time ago silver something with orange kdas too can't find the clip

you are also playing ahri support can't really say you deserve any higher than gold as at that point auto fills will outperform you on your ahri support

I don't actually think KDA matters much beyond making sure people don't tilt their asses off the moment they see my pick (though I'm sure it doesn't matter, and no-one will listen to what I have to say on the matter because I'm the one annoyed at the alternation between teams being dumb as a rock, and sharp as a razor.) My KDA's just an end result of not following engages I know we won't win, because you'll obviously win if your 3 teammates engage the other 5 w/ a massive gold lead. That's just the type of stuff I don't follow, because only feeding 1,200g is better than feeding 1,600g. ...what, do people want me to follow and int with my team just so I can say "Oh well, I tried" when I'm right 95% of the time?

Gold's the best elo, I've heard. Fewer trolls, everyone's genuinely focused on improving themselves and not flaming people, etc. and I can say it sounds really nice. I'd prefer it over the Plat+ meta of 'pickban or lose lane', targetbanning and ghosting.

Edit: if I was KDA-hunting I'd do better than having a 7.50 at best on one or two champions. Do you want to add me and watch me play, so you can verify I'm not looking to have a decent KDA but that it's an end result of not following on suicide missions? A 3v5 where you're fed is likely going to end well, and even better if the support comes along (which is why I do.) The same is not true for a 3v5 where you're behind.

If you're so inclined, take a quick look at my kill participation%. it's virtually impossible to have anything above 40% and be hunting for KDA points, and yet mine averages 58%. That's to say, I take part in 58% of my team's kills and, because I don't die much (an end result of knowing that 3 people are in that bush) I contribute to, what, maybe 10% of their deaths?

Thingamajig1 votes

and what if you were to win those engages by sacrificing your life bar? maybe you would have won

this was LSs argument as well because a hecarim was going near 9 kdas from 100+ games that there are situations where you going in and dying is the winning play

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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and what if you were to win those engages by sacrificing your life bar? maybe you would have won

this was LSs argument as well because a hecarim was going near 9 kdas from 100+ games that there are situations where you going in and dying is the winning play

Then I do it, which is why I die at all. If I was hunting for KDA, I wouldn't die. Ever. I know how to completely avoid dying and rack up those sick numbers as my team gets completely eviscerated in a 4v5. But I do die, maybe because... I don't know, I sacrifice myself for the greater good if situation calls to?

Thingamajig1 votes

no you don't your death count is way below average which is good don't get me wrong but you don't know how to transfer not dying to objectives

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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no you don't your death count is way below average

Want to watch me play? Maybe then you'll take it back and consider my own point-of-view. You're EUW, so you'll have to create an account here and finish the tutorial -- or I can let you use one of my alts I used when I was newer -- but I'm very much up for seeing you eat your words.

You don't seem like a Riot fanatic, so I'm not particularly sure why you're putting it past them to arbitrarily rig matchmaking in the same way E.A wants to rig it to encourage sales, but I'm happy to show you the way nonetheless. If you're so sure you're right, then I'm sure you'll be happy to prove me wrong.

Edit: hell, let me download and send you a few replays. I can even reverse-engineer OP.GG's spectator .batch file to allow you to watch them all individually, despite you not being me and all that jazz. Just say the word.

Thingamajig1 votes

bro im half assing my games on my smurfs and winning pretty much everyone of my games in silver i think it's quite bold of you to assume that your play is perfect

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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bro im half assing my games on my smurfs and winning pretty much everyone of my games in silver i think it's quite bald of you to assume that your play is perfect

and I think it's quite bold of you to interpret this as me saying it is.

I'm saying it's better than most Silver players I encounter, and that's all I'm saying. If I'm somehow able to lose 47 games in a row, I'm sure it's not that hard to be unlucky... and I'm sure that, at the very least, knowing someone with experience has faith that I'll climb eventually is a big enough boost to morale that it may be worth continuing on trying. So far, the on-again off-again matchmaking makes me feel like it isn't a worthwhile effort to try and get to Gold, because it's just too dependent on my luck and not my skill.

Edit: you're also a carry main. I one-trick Support, and if I'm forced to Jungle I pick stuff like Amumu or Ivern, whom qualify as 'Support Junglers'. I despise being an outright carry because it feels like too much reliance placed on one single person in a team-oriented environment. I don't play this to roleplay Geralt of Rivia.

Thingamajig1 votes

if you continue playing ahri exclusively very likely you will climb but i wonder if you have the will to exclusively play ahri for 20 games straight

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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if you continue playing ahri exclusively very likely you will climb but i wonder if you have the will to exclusively play ahri for 20 games straight

Cool. You know how OP.GG's spectate function works. In around 5-10 minutes I'll start playing a game, and if she isn't banned I'll be picking her straightaway. Feel free to spectate me, to either verify or decline your suspicion.

I have the will to. I've done it before. I've also lost 47 games in a row before. Anything's possible, with heart.

Thingamajig1 votes

here is some kool stats for you if you played 100 games straight of ahri and kept your 68% win rate on her you would win 68 and lose 32 if you were to win a static 20lp and always win your promos you climb 760lp which will get you from silver 3 to gold 1

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

Ah well. Thank you for the effort, and the motivation. I do appreciate it, but I'm honestly thinking of just moving on to another game.

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Surprise, it's a loss. The ADC tilted immediately, the Jungle and Top both fed pretty hard, and somehow I have more damage than Jinx. It's something that'd never happen if it wasn't for the whole "Riot can't do matchmaking" thing. It also doesn't coincide with my goal being a good KDA, but because it's something I happen to have it's used as an argument against me or my point. Go figure.

Care for another? I want to get demoted into Bronze. It means I can just stomp people in or out of lane all day everyday like I've been doing for the past 4 months, because it's just so fun to be fighting bots.

Thingamajig2 votes

thats your choice if you can't handle the losses as pure statistic and just dwell on the reasons behind them instead of focusing on consistently playing your best a single player game might be better for you

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

Lets rock.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Keep playing Sona, Pyke and Ahri and drop the champions you cannot get over a 50% win rate with and you will climb. Want proof?

Here's an account where I only played my main champions:- https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=xelniya

Here's an account where I play my main champions but also played a lot of random shit:- https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=vbniya

See the difference? The first account sits comfortably in Gold 3 while the other one is barely holding on to Silver.

If you can play over 50 games on any champion while maintaining a win rate above 50% then you can climb to Gold no question about that. The only thing you need is the discipline to not play shit you're bad at. I recommend getting another account just so you can play whatever you want and use this one to climb or vice versa. Also, and this is very important, DO NOT PLAY ON YOUR CLIMBING ACCOUNT WHILE ON TILT. If you lose 2 games in a row, stop. Don't play anymore on that account until those loses feel like a distant memory. Playing on tilt fucks you so hard and you won't even realize it. And lastly, accept that you won't win every game. You will lose games but as long as you win more than you lose, you will climb. So you get a team of hardcore feeders, just surrender. Don't waste time or tilt yourself trying to win the unwinnable. Not every game will be like that and who knows, maybe the next 2 games the feeders will be on the enemy team.

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

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Keep playing Sona, Pyke and Ahri and drop the champions you cannot get over a 50% win rate with and you will climb. Want proof?

Here's an account where I only played my main champions:- https://lan.op.gg/summoner/userName=xelniya

Here's an account where I play my main champions but also played a lot of random shit:- https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=vbniya

See the difference? The first account sits comfortably in Gold 3 while the other one is barely holding on to Silver.

If you can play over 50 games on any champion while maintaining a win rate above 50% then you can climb to Gold no question about that. The only thing you need is the discipline to not play shit you're bad at. I recommend getting another account just so you can play whatever you want and use this one to climb or vice versa. Also, and this is very important, DO NOT PLAY ON YOUR CLIMBING ACCOUNT WHILE ON TILT. If you lose 2 games in a row, stop. Don't play anymore on that account until those loses feel like a distant memory. Playing on tilt fucks you so hard and you won't even realize it. And lastly, accept that you won't win every game. You will lose games but as long as you win more than you lose, you will climb. So you get a team of hardcore feeders, just surrender. Don't waste time or tilt yourself trying to win the unwinnable. Not every game will be like that and who knows, maybe the next 2 games the feeders will be on the enemy team.

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