So every time I see a jungle ezreal, without fail, they end up feeding and throwing the game for the enemy team. So can we just all agree that it's not a good idea to play jungle ez? It's gotten to the point where I need to ban ez so that my team doesn't play him in the jungle in ranked.
I don't know what kind of fad this is, but if you lose to jungle ez, you aren't very good.
FireDrizzle2 votesThe jungle Ezreals I saw did well. He is ridiculous with red buff.
DeathBurst2 votesDon't ban your own team pick. It's just a bad idea overall. Just don't.
One Ashe On1 votesEvery jungle ezreal i saw were dealing ridiculous amount of damage and sincerely it was annoying me but i now understand why people play him... it now open a typical sustained damage Adc while having strong poke from Ezreal.. Your team need tank top/support but with good teamwork it's doable.
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Every jungle ezreal i saw were dealing ridiculous amount of damage and sincerely it was annoying me but i now understand why people play him... it now open a typical sustained damage Adc while having strong poke from Ezreal.. **Your team need tank top/support but with good teamwork it's doable. **
You see... here's the catch... it's solo Q.
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You see... here's the catch... it's solo Q.
SoloQ teamwork does exist... not everytime but it does exist.
The Öutcast1 votes[{quoted}](name=One Ashe On,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Eo5rocjM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-25T03:54:48.089+0000)
Every jungle ezreal i saw were dealing ridiculous amount of damage and sincerely it was annoying me but i now understand why people play him... it now open a typical sustained damage Adc while having strong poke from Ezreal.. Your team need tank top/support but with good teamwork it's doable.
once it scales he does damage, but until he does he's extremely susceptible to counter jungling, he's way too easy to counter and every single time it's on my team I know it's a loss and every time it's on the enemy team I know it's a win.
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once it scales he does damage, but until he does he's extremely susceptible to counter jungling, he's way too easy to counter and every single time it's on my team I know it's a loss and every time it's on the enemy team I know it's a win.
What elo are you?
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What elo are you?
plat 3
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plat 3
Well at your elo people start to be decent so of course it won't work unless Ezreal is a main ezreal. In gold people don't know what to do against it.
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Well at your elo people start to be decent so of course it won't work unless Ezreal is a main ezreal. In gold people don't know what to do against it.
I'm guessing metasheep because of the pro play.
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I'm guessing metasheep because of the pro play.
Just like Ziggs adc or Lucian mid... etc.
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Just like Ziggs adc or Lucian mid... etc.
I imagine plat players should be wise enough to understand the concept of the strat though. As to WHY they do it, WHAT situations is it good for and WHEN should they not do it.
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I imagine plat players should be wise enough to understand the concept of the strat though. As to WHY they do it, WHAT situations is it good for and WHEN should they not do it.
except when about 1/4 of the accounts are boosted so they don't know jack shit
The Öutcast1 votesAnd, every time My prediction about the game has been correct. It's a toxic trash pick that shouldn't be picked, it ruins my games and it ruins other people's games
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So every time I see a jungle ezreal, without fail, they end up feeding and throwing the game for the enemy team. So can we just all agree that it's not a good idea to play jungle ez? It's gotten to the point where I need to ban ez so that my team doesn't play him in the jungle in ranked.
I don't know what kind of fad this is, but if you lose to jungle ez, you aren't very good.
If the team comp can support it, and I get JG (it's my second pick lately), I will go Ez every time. I won't do it if we dont have something with some CC or tankiness in lanes, though.
That said--the reason jg Ez is viable right now is that he can do a level 2 or 3 cheeze gank with red buff REALLY QUICKLY. The damage is really strong, and the nature of his Q is that even if the enemy flashes away, you can often Q them long range for that last bit of damage to finish them off. Stormraiders helps with this, but it's debatable as to whether it's worth it IMO (but I'm only a gold scrub so meh).
Ezreal's problem has lately been that he can't compete in damage without spamming Q literally nonstop. This means you almost have to have Tear, which is awful early game and is just terribly easily punished by, like, literally every other ADC/support combo. Going jungle negates this, as you can skip Tear and go Warrior into Trinity Force.
It does fall off late vs lots of teamcomps, though, as Jungle Ez teams can be SEVERELY punished if they don't have a good teamcomp or don't end the game by 30 minutes. At that time, any poke Ez does is completely negated by the billions and trillions of shields and regens available these days.
Champion.gg reflects this if you look at their charts--the winrate falloff is pretty severe past a certain time. I think if more people stop just assuming Jungle Ez players are trolls and work with them to organize a toplane or support pick to compensate for a non-tank jungler that would change the falloff a bit.
The Öutcast1 votesIf the team comp can support it, and I get JG (it's my second pick lately), I will go Ez every time. I won't do it if we dont have something with some CC or tankiness in lanes, though.
That said--the reason jg Ez is viable right now is that he can do a level 2 or 3 cheeze gank with red buff REALLY QUICKLY. The damage is really strong, and the nature of his Q is that even if the enemy flashes away, you can often Q them long range for that last bit of damage to finish them off. Stormraiders helps with this, but it's debatable as to whether it's worth it IMO (but I'm only a gold scrub so meh).
Ezreal's problem has lately been that he can't compete in damage without spamming Q literally nonstop. This means you almost have to have Tear, which is awful early game and is just terribly easily punished by, like, literally every other ADC/support combo. Going jungle negates this, as you can skip Tear and go Warrior into Trinity Force.
It does fall off late vs lots of teamcomps, though, as Jungle Ez teams can be SEVERELY punished if they don't have a good teamcomp or don't end the game by 30 minutes. At that time, any poke Ez does is completely negated by the billions and trillions of shields and regens available these days.
Champion.gg reflects this if you look at their charts--the winrate falloff is pretty severe past a certain time. I think if more people stop just assuming Jungle Ez players are trolls and work with them to organize a toplane or support pick to compensate for a non-tank jungler that would change the falloff a bit.
first time I saw it, I thought it would be alright, but every single time I've seen it, I've been disappointed. People don't know how to do it