It actually surprises me that

Mael bro··1 votes·390 views

Some people think that Cinderhulk meta was the healthiest in recent years. Since boards is big on buzzwords such as counterplay. Do people actually think that playing against a full tank Cinderhulk Gragas was a fun to play against experience?

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SEKAI2 votes

Only a few champs (more like 2-3) with Cinderhulk are problems, rest are completely healthy.

The strawman needs to stop.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Only a few champs (more like 2-3) with Cinderhulk are problems, rest are completely healthy.

The strawman needs to stop.

aside that, all classes were perfectly balanced, but yea cinderhulk was the healthiest meta right

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

This is the definition of a leading question. Personally I'm of the mind that the pattern of smite top during that time was good and fun. Smite gave a little variance to playstyles top-lane before teleport became flat out expected everytime.

Now, to directly answer your question. Yes, I did enjoy playing against that. AFTER the damage on cinderhulk was reduced versus champions. I do agree the damage on cinderhulk was overtuned, as a lot of jungle items turned lane items turn out to be.

However I will address my own personal bias in that I don't usually play assassins but fighters and supports who directly benefit from a tank meta. Assassins and mages will naturally have a much worse time during a tank-meta in the same way adc's and supports will have an awful time in an assassin meta.

In general I'm of the mind that tank metas are easier to adapt to than assassin metas as you can circumvent an overbearing tank with rotating and splitpushing. An assassin meta however requires grouping and good teamfights, which is harder to utilize in solo-q.

But hey, that's just my opinion and I recognize others will have differing opinions based on their favorite champs and strats.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

The most cases in which I've seen this stated were sarcastic arguments. I've never once seen someone actually think the Cinderhulk Meta was by any means healthy. Do you have any references?

Mael bro1 votes

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The most cases in which I've seen this stated were sarcastic arguments. I've never once seen someone actually think the Cinderhulk Meta was by any means healthy. Do you have any references?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/asgf0rzc-season-5-a-nice-mix-of-tank-and-bruiser-metas-where-just-about-everything-was-somewhat-viable

First page page in the comment section might catch your attention

Erockandroll1 votes

The only problem I saw with the Cinderhulk meta, is that the difference between glass cannon and Tanks were growing. And you couldn't just out right buff the glass cannon, without them becoming a problem for other glass cannons.

And this Made Duelists not existant, until Riot decided to create transparency between glass cannons and tanks with (Circumstantial) %HP true damage. And that's what people are complaining about right now. (even though a duelist is still fairly glass cannon, and should be weak against assassins.)

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

WOW, GRAGAS WAS OP WITH CINDERHULK, IT MEANS THAT CINDERHULK WAS TOXIC. MEANWHILE DEVOURER MADE MORE THAN 9 CHAMPS OP IS HEALTHY XD.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

They nerfed the tanks and the tank items, then created Fiora with her % max true dmg...

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