From purely a numbers perspective, Ornn is kinda OP

Kuponya··3 votes·3,166 views

Consider the debuff Brittle - 30% longer cc duration and 12 - 20.5% of maximum HP when immobilized. Now consider that his ultimate, though not too easy to land applies it on both hits. Now though brittle doesn't stack, a champion who gets hit by both parts is more or less marked to lose 41% of their maximum HP.

Allies that effectively wombo combo with Ornn's W and R alone at level 18 yield 77.5% of targets' maximum HP from Ornn's kit alone (R1 applies brittle, R2 procs and reapplies brittle, [ally AoE immobilize], while CC'd Ornn walks up and W's, [another ally AoE immobilize]) Ornn can also do the same but requires 2 autos

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Nithke3 votes

So why is he complete shit ?

Infernape1 votes

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So why is he complete shit ?

Because he's a tank whose only defensive steroid is basically a built in Conditioning. Armour/MR numbers don't mean much nowadays.

Nithke1 votes

I miss Ornn being viable, his empowered auto was so satisfying

Tychusfindlay9181 votes

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So why is he complete shit ?

He's basically a C tier bruiser.

After he lost his shield, he doesn't have any real tank steroids outside of a free conditioning.

Back when he did have his shield and he was a premier tank, it was because he had C-B tier bruiser damage with A tier tanking. Now he still has his C-B tier bruiser damage but he has C tier tank.

Ralanr1 votes

I really do miss the shield. But without it, it feels like his abilities per level make more sense (I’m actually having a blast maxing Q first).

I actually got the tankiest I’ve ever been on Ornn in an Aram yesterday against a ful AD non ADC team with a soraka. I had 525 armor and the only one who had conquerer was Aatrox.

It felt good to be tanky again. All it required was idiots not buying armor pen and no ADCs.

Tychusfindlay9181 votes

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I really do miss the shield. But without it, it feels like his abilities per level make more sense (I’m actually having a blast maxing Q first).

I actually got the tankiest I’ve ever been on Ornn in an Aram yesterday against a ful AD non ADC team with a soraka. I had 525 armor and the only one who had conquerer was Aatrox.

It felt good to be tanky again. All it required was idiots not buying armor pen and no ADCs.

He becomes tanky again as you get near full build with the double upgraded items (preferrably one mr and one armor against mixed teams) but game is over at 2-3 items usually.

Ralanr1 votes

Yeah, once his items upgrade I do feel a lot more durable.

Tychusfindlay9181 votes

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Yeah, once his items upgrade I do feel a lot more durable.

Yeah but he still can't tank for shit without getting a gargoyles, but then he does no dmg again. He basically loses out and is just a bad sejuani. Sej can at least just instadump pretty much all her shit and then quickly gargoyles after.

HorseProofBacon2 votes

Ornn is in no universe OP...especially after his shield was removed. If anything he needs some love buffs to bring him back up to speed as he is currently subpar.

Ralanr1 votes

Pretty sure Ornn's brittle only does the HP damage when he procs it with an auto. It shouldn't be doing the HP damage when it extends the duration of someone's CC.

Moody P1 votes

It does and it always has, it's just easier to proc it yourself

Ralanr1 votes

Shit really? I guess I never noticed because no one else procs brittle when I play him.

Beerstein1 votes

Because he's designed for a late game that doesn't exist, especially with the ff@15 mentality in league.

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