Why is AD champs allowed life steal in aram yet tanks cant have Warmog's Armor?

Gamer Life··5 votes·1,851 views

I was only just praseing use early for the trading bin thing and then use do somthing like this. Useless Riot Game. just useless!

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MagicFlyingLlama6 votes

Lifesteal involves getting in range of retaliation. Warmogs involves hiding behind two turrets for 15 seconds.

Gamer Life2 votes

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Lifesteal involves getting in range of retaliation. Warmogs involves hiding behind two turrets for 15 seconds.

and if ad champs have thet items to help them heal up then so should tanks. they may have different ways to get there heal back but it should be fair for all

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

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HP regen is one of the last problems tanks have. A lot can also effectively get lifesteal or spellvamp in ARAM.

Maokai item 3146 item 3065 is just hilarious, for example.

Gamer Life1 votes

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HP regen is one of the last problems tanks have. A lot can also effectively get lifesteal or spellvamp in ARAM.

Maokai item 3146 item 3065 is just hilarious, for example.

yer but i dont care about that on that champ. if ad get life seal then it only fair

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

Tanks can buy the same lifesteal everyone else can. AD can buy the same defensive items tanks can.

This does not make it an actually good choice, though.

Adding new items that are move powerful just so tanks can heal even better would A; make tanks OP, and B; make AD even worse, because they would build it as well.

Gamer Life1 votes

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Tanks can buy the same lifesteal everyone else can. AD can buy the same defensive items tanks can.

This does not make it an actually good choice, though.

Adding new items that are move powerful just so tanks can heal even better would A; make tanks OP, and B; make AD even worse, because they would build it as well.

yer and then you wont be tanky that is the point of going tank to help your team and block damage

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

You cant have everything - that is called being overpowered.

Gamer Life1 votes

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You cant have everything - that is called being overpowered.

its no oveerpowered at all

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Fortunately you dont get to balance the game, because you dont have a clue what you are doing.

Answer this: how would you balance lifesteal so tanks get the same sustain as AD. Lets see some math.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

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Fortunately you dont get to balance the game, because you dont have a clue what you are doing.

Answer this: how would you balance lifesteal so tanks get the same sustain as AD. Lets see some math.

1+ -1 = 0.

Kanzler4 votes

4k hp with resistances that you heal back vs 1800 hp with no resistances that require autos to heal back.

Gamer Life1 votes

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4k hp with resistances that you heal back vs 1800 hp with no resistances that require autos to heal back.

yes it have resistances. maybe read the item description. If you get hit by someone it puts in on cooldown

Passive Grants Warmog's Heart if you have at least 3000 maximum health. Unique – Warmog's Heart: Regenerate 「 2.5% maximum health every half-second 」if damage has not been taken in the last 6 seconds (3 second for minions).

redniwediS1 votes

He's talking about the entire build of each champion, not just the items. Warmogs also doesn't give 4k HP, so that probably should have hinted to you.

Kanzler1 votes

I was talking about the health, armor, and magic resistance of the champion using the item.<removed by moderation>

Gamer Life1 votes

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I was talking about the health, armor, and magic resistance of the champion using the item. No wonder your idea is terrible given the quality of your posting.

well if you dont make your point clear then I am not going to no am I. am not a mind reader

Kanzler1 votes

Other people understood just fine. Considering i was responding in a thread that distinguished adc and tanks in the title, one would hope the author of the thread could recognize people are talking about adc and tanks in their post.

Gamer Life1 votes

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I was talking about the health, armor, and magic resistance of the champion using the item. No wonder your idea is terrible given the quality of your posting.

and its not an idea its an item been remove from aram when it was there in the first place

ModKagenoOu1 votes

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I was talking about the health, armor, and magic resistance of the champion using the item. (edited by KagenoOu)

just making a small edit, Please dont turn this into a personal thing guys

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

Warmogs requires you to AFK to heal up.

Lifesteal requires you to regain health from teamfights, which involves risk factors.

Gamer Life1 votes

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Warmogs requires you to AFK to heal up.

Lifesteal requires you to regain health from teamfights, which involves risk factors.

it still does the same job. it doesnt matter how it does it. if one set of people is allowed to heal back up the other should be allowed

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

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it still does the same job. it doesnt matter how it does it. if one set of people is allowed to heal back up the other should be allowed

Not as impressive as Warmogs does.

  • Lifestealing on minions is a pain since your 4 other teammates would want to take the cs for themselves.

  • Lifestealing on champions is a lot harder since you're getting a higher chance of getting doved on.

You can't just say "both does the same job" if you're just gonna ignore the facts both has to contribute to.

Gamer Life1 votes

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BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

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and that my fault you cont move and farm at the same time?

Imagine you're playing Ashe & tries to lifesteal off from teamfights. Moving around to avoid skillshots & hooks is a lot harder than you think. Plus, it's not like you're playing her on 3k HP & takes all 5 man to burst you down.

Gamer Life1 votes

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Imagine you're playing Ashe & tries to lifesteal off from teamfights. Moving around to avoid skillshots & hooks is a lot harder than you think. Plus, it's not like you're playing her on 3k HP & takes all 5 man to burst you down.

and what is a support or tank for to stop that from happening. that is the job of a tank/support

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

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and what is a support or tank for to stop that from happening. that is the job of a tank/support

Are you guaranteed a support in every ARAM game doe? Are you also guaranteed a support that's not going for the intended build & goes AP Alistar?

And protection kit =/= heal spams like Soraka, and Soraka & Sona's heal power were reduced significantly.

Totally Not Jinx3 votes

Hi!

So there's some stuff happening in this thread that's running into a conflict with the Universal Rules. I'm in the process of going through and notifying those involved, so please be patient with me, and if you see something against the rules, please just report them and move on.

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Gamer Life1 votes

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Hi!

So there's some stuff happening in this thread that's running into a conflict with the Universal Rules. I'm in the process of going through and notifying those involved, so please be patient with me, and if you see something against the rules, please just report them and move on.

I'd like to see the conversation get back on track before I have to lock the thread.

---Totally Not Jinx

how is it over track. Just read every post and all about the topic. Well you are going to have to point the "conflict with the [Universal Rules]" because I dont see it

Totally Not Jinx2 votes

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how is it over track. Just read every post and all about the topic. Well you are going to have to point the "conflict with the [Universal Rules]" because I dont see it

You should have a notification indicating the specifics at this time.

Primarily, the golden rule of being respectful to other Boards members is where the conflict lies here.

And to answer an earlier question of yours:

I have I have just reply to you. and ow wow delete the post is going to teach that person 0. How is that going to teach them that its not ok to say that. Its like one rule for some and another rule for others

The rules are the same for everyone on the Boards. They are applied and enforced by the moderator team, and the only penalties or consequences anyone is privy to when a violation occurs are their own. Discussing other people's penalties does not happen.

Gamer Life1 votes

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You should have a notification indicating the specifics at this time.

Primarily, the golden rule of being respectful to other Boards members is where the conflict lies here.

And to answer an earlier question of yours:

The rules are the same for everyone on the Boards. They are applied and enforced by the moderator team, and the only penalties or consequences anyone is privy to when a violation occurs are their own. Discussing other people's penalties does not happen.

How is telling someone to do the rearch about the game break a rule! that make no sence

Totally Not Jinx2 votes

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How is telling someone to do the rearch about the game break a rule! that make no sence

We're getting a little off-track here, and for that I apologise.

If you have more questions, feel free to talk to us in the The Boards Moderation Discord or the Discuss the Boards sub-board.

Gamer Life1 votes

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We're getting a little off-track here, and for that I apologise.

If you have more questions, feel free to talk to us in the The Boards Moderation Discord or the Discuss the Boards sub-board.

no i dont want to use discord. I would like to speak to your superviser

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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no i dont want to use discord. I would like to speak to your superviser

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Gamer Life1 votes

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No i am not going away I want to speak to Totally Not Jinx he has taken everything out of context just to try fit a rule break when it hasnt. He cant just falesly push people and then ignore

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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No i am not going away I want to speak to Totally Not Jinx he has taken everything out of context just to try fit a rule break when it hasnt. He cant just falesly push people and then ignore

You literally just asked to speak to someone higher up in the hierarchy, and I have told you the appropriate places where you can speak with me if you so desire. Further discussion of this topic in this thread, however, will be considered off-topic and potentially subject to removal or locking.

Please take this into consideration, and bring your concerns to Discuss the Boards or the Moderation Discord, where I will be happy to address them.

Gamer Life1 votes

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You literally just asked to speak to someone higher up in the hierarchy, and I have told you the appropriate places where you can speak with me if you so desire. Further discussion of this topic in this thread, however, will be considered off-topic and potentially subject to removal or locking.

Please take this into consideration, and bring your concerns to Discuss the Boards or the Moderation Discord, where I will be happy to address them.

and I have and he is ignore as usuel same old Riot staff do what they want yet wont deal with it when they are wrong https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/E8w8b6bk-question-to-totally-not-jinx

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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and I have and he is ignore as usuel same old Riot staff do what they want yet wont deal with it when they are wrong https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/E8w8b6bk-question-to-totally-not-jinx

I have investigated and responded to that one personally. Further discussion should be directed to that thread.

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