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Why isn't Rengar being considered for a rework?

Chuck Charles·5/16/2016, 8:41:43 AM·8 votes·868 views

title. basically this champion is still stuck with his incredibly binary and feast or famine kit. basically rengar has had to be gutted to a point where he can't instantly kill you out of stealth unless he is very fed. but he can still do it if he gets fed? all the nerfs did to rengar I've noticed is make it harder for him to get fed. and that seems unhealthy to me. i mean I sympathize for rengar players because its like saying "well we think your champion's kit is uhealthy, but rather than fix it with something cool, we are just going to gut him and make him incredibly hard to play". maybe thats not the train of thought, but right now rengar can still do rengar things when fed. nothing has changed. all that has changed is that he is incredibly clunky and its harder for him to get fed because of it. I played a few games against diamond rengar smurfs and can confirm the "instant death even though my entire team is around me" still happens. I mean the only counterplay is zhonyas AND being around your team at the same time. and that is if you have very quick reaction time.

so my question is this, why isn't he just going to be reworked? I know you got a few others planned, Ryze is egregious, Yorick, etc...but Rengar desperately needs some love. his thematic is so cool, but his gameplay is either "im going to shit on this entire game" or "im going to feed and be useless".

I mean a few things rengar has are pretty cool. his passive is unique and has a lot of unique pressure of playing around him (avoid bushes) and his bonetooth necklace fits well with this theme of trophies for kills.

his main problem is the way his ultimate work. Stealth is always a problematic mechanic, but rengar is an assassin who can instantly one shot out of stealth when fed enough. that is a huge problem. Evelyn has similar issues but gets fed even less than rengar, but thats a topic for another day.

is he going to get any attention any time soon or is he going to be left dumpstered and/or continue to be nerfed until he is useless because his kit is completely cancerous to the game.

10 Comments

ChocolateMyDrug5/16/2016, 9:01:03 AM1 votes

Go figure

Sahn Uzal5/16/2016, 9:55:04 AM1 votes

Riot will do one more class update this year. This classupdate will be Assassins, Diving fighters, or Tanks. If it ends up being an Assassin or Diving fighter update, Rengar will be reworked since he falls under both classes.

Feathermane5/16/2016, 6:25:06 PM1 votes

I think the exclamation mark rework really did the most you could do and drained all of Riot's creative resources.

Seenan5/16/2016, 8:00:09 PM1 votes

Even after the changes, when I last played Rengar, my E flew right above my target. Go figure.

Saianna5/17/2016, 12:55:21 AM1 votes

Rengar had 1 rework already. It made him broken-weak. Granted, he was OP at relase.

Now he's like 1/3 of what he used to be (unless you are using this smashh all actives at jump to insta-kill, then power is the same as relase rengar just withou splitpushing). Ofc all sorts of unhealthy mechanics were unchanged. Cause why would we rework something that caused us to rework it in first place?

TheHurricaneGamr5/17/2016, 1:21:18 AM1 votes

I heard a rioter say somewhere on the boards that he is likely going to be one of the big reworks if they go through with reworking assassins for the preseason.

Frius5/18/2016, 9:39:55 AM1 votes

Stealth is always a problematic mechanic, but rengar is an assassin who can instantly one shot out of stealth when fed enough

shaco ? without warning mark/

BluePolarizer5/18/2016, 9:45:00 AM1 votes

Rengar used to be so OP that he could build lizard-> ghostblade -> full tank and still 1 shot carries late game.

They then reworked him into a more damage centered champ which caused full damage Rengar to destroy people seasons 4 and 5 if they were unprepared but didn't do much against people who were unless you were good at flanking and using mobility boots+ghostblade to avoid wards and run in while they couldn't react. Rengar was sitting at a 49-51% win rate for a long time.

Then preseason changes vision, deletes pink totem, deletes the old red trinket, and surprise surprise, when you can't see Rengar no matter what late game, he becomes OP and then gets gutted.