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@Riot: Pantheon Passive VS Mordekasier Q

Ralanr··1 votes·615 views

I asked a similar question about Garen's silence ability before. Meddler if you read this I'd like to say thank you for answering that post, and hopefully you can answer this question.

Mordekasier's Q is 3 basic attacks that multiply with each hit. Pantheon's passive allows him to block the basic attacks of champions, yet when he blocks the 3rd swing from Mordekasier (I did it several times in the fight) it did not block the extra damage. I know Pantheon can block Nasus Q no matter how much damage is causes, and the reason as to why Garen's silence went through is because it was a nondamaging effect (Which I don't like, but that's not for me to decide how that works). Mordekasier's Q from what I understand is straight damage, so shouldn't Pantheon be able to block the 3rd Q if he has his passive up?

Can we not let such a thematic moment take place? The valiant spartan warrior stopping the evil tyrant's destructive final strike with nothing but his shield and wits? Symbolism that planning and timing can overcome pure force in any situation?

Pantheon the true hero. (I'm listening to the Worlds Collide song as I type this)

But in all seriousness, this allowed for a reason or just overlooked by accident?

9 Comments

Lord Dusteon1 votes

That works because of a few things, mainly that Mordekaiser's Q makes his next 3 basic attacks do an increasing amount of magic damage and apply spell effects. The other thing is that the autoattack blocking things (Pantheon passive, Jax E, Blinds) are very specific on what is and is not blocked, often for rather arbitrary reasons. Not much to do but wait for Riot to overhaul autoattack blocking things.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

As far as I know that's because Pantheon's passive only block basic attacks that deal physical damage.

Mordekaiser's third Q is entirely converted into magic damage, so it is not blocked.

That's why Poppy's Q is not blocked either.

N0rth Wind1 votes

Riot has already stated that which on-hit effects go through what is kind of a one-off decision they do on each champion separately, and they intend to clean it up at some point.

Different attacks behave differently, and I think blind and block negate different effects too.

I'm afraid we just need to play around it until Riot patches it up, friend. :/

Ralanr1 votes

I had a feeling the two were related. Hopefully this just helps them notice another effect that should be looked at.

Until then, my eyes are on the horizon that is the preseason.

N0rth Wind1 votes

Yep, I'm sure they will now be aware of this :)

Personally I'm hyped about the upcoming Marksman Update. If they do a job NEARLY as good as they did with Fiora + the Juggernauts, it will be the best patch ever.

Fiora, Darius and Garen were always some of my mains at top, I kind of liked Morde too, and all of them became super-unique champions with clear niches.

I hope the same happens to my boys, Lucian and Varus, who are excellent champions but can't really compete with monsters like Vayne, Draven, Jinx or my beloved Tristana (turrets exploding). Graves too should be updated, but especially Lucian. He's a caster adc that's supposed to scale excellently, and yet he gets shut down by almost everyone, and his damage isn't that good. Caitlyn will get cleaned up too, which is exciting as I play her when I want a super-safe pick, and they said they have some changes in store for the void puppy too (Koggy<3).

I'm SO excited, it cannot come soon enough.

Ralanr1 votes

Personally I hope it will allow bot lane to become less important. I'm so tired of seeing the enemy team rush in to shut down the ADC.

N0rth Wind1 votes

Personally I hope the weak ADCs will get stronger, and all lanes in general will become stronger too.

Top is now the second carry lane, and jungle has huge carry potential. The era of junglers being basically tanky supports is way past us, Yi, Udyr, Elise, Shyvana, Xin, soon Kindred will like to have a word with you :3

Support is no longer a "weak" role, with mage additions to the team (Annie, Vel'koz, Zyra, now Veigar more than ever etc) and picks like Thresh, Soraka, Braum, Bard, Leona etc deciding entire teamfights if not games...

Mid could be a bit shaken up with new changes but it's generally fine.

A while ago I used to think that LoL is becoming stale, but Riot is doing a fucking TERRIFIC job. I have complete trust in them after the Juggernauts and Fiora, Kindred looks amazing and I just can't wait for the Marskman upgrade. :)

Ralanr1 votes

Personally tired of those junglers. Mainly because they seem to be the most viable (cause devourer). I'd love to see a return of flexibility in the jungle.

I want both sides to have different types of junglers that don't automatically stomp the other. Like a warrior jungler is on even ground with a runeglaive one.

Different playstyle that challenge each other instead of who does the same style better. That's probably why I play Pantheon top, was tired of playing tanks.

N0rth Wind1 votes

I totally support different styles being equally strong.

I also wish the early, mid game Champions could actually do well in the late game if they're ahead enough.

Automatically losing later on just because you picked LeBlanc feels bad. :(

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