A 4th jungle item (mage existance)

CoolKnightST··1 votes·275 views

Some video that became popular on reddit was a good reminder on how bad the jungle is and still will be for mages. In this video this guy mentioned that their are 4 main classes in the jungle:

  • #Assasins Evelynn Ekko Fizz Khazix Nidalee Shaco Talon
  • #Carries MasterYi Jax Ezreal Kindred Graves Kayle Tryndamere
  • #Bruisers
  • Divers: Aatrox Warwick LeeSin Camille Vi Elise Diana Hecarim JarvanIV Kled XinZhao MonkeyKing
  • Juggernauts: Volibear Darius Garen Udyr Mordekaiser Trundle Olaf Shyvana
  • #Tanks:
  • Vanguards: Amumu Gragas Malphite Maokai Nautilus Ornn Rammus Sejuani Sion
  • Wardens: TahmKench Shen Nunu
  • Other: Chogath Galio

However their are actually two more classes:

  • #Catchers: Ivern Morgana Zyra Blitzcrank
  • #Mages: Fiddlesticks Karthus

Both Wardens, Catchers & Mages have issues in the jungle right now. Catchers & Wardens struggle to have a decent keystone to work with. But for mages it's even worse. Not only they don't have a keystone they don't have proper itemisation as well.

Mages entire design in the jungle has been a issue riot just can't figure out anymore. I think mages do need to come back in the jungle as a counterpart for onhit carries.

item 1039 is in a really overtuned state just to make some mana intensive champion somewhat decent. It goes even so far that some midlaners that take spellbook start with smite so they can buy this item and use it for lane sustain. In a recent video on reddit it shows that when used this strategy you can restore back to full health just by smite & AOE raptors.

To introduce mages back to the jungle I would like to see a 4th upgrade option existing out item 3070 or item 3802 that these mages can use to generate mana reserves or can use as a mana item ones they are out of the jungle. Just think about something like a Swain Ryze Lissandra Anivia jungle and offcourse Karthus. By introducing this item it would also allow buffing champions like Fiddlesticks by giving him more power on his abilities while increase the mana cost from it. His ganks will be stronger again and he wouldn't be as hard outmatches by invading junglers while his clears will massively improve as well.

This 4th item could work very similar to how the relationship between item 1400 & item 1416 is. You can take warrior if you want some early power and you take bloodrazor if you want to scale better into the lategame.

#Example for the item item 3711 + item 3070

  • UNIQUE – AWE: Grants bonus ability power equal to 3% maximum mana. Refunds 25% of mana spent.
  • UNIQUE – MANA CHARGE: Grants a charge every 4 seconds, up to 3 charges. Each mana expenditure consumes a charge and grants +8 mana, up to a maximum of 750 mana.

Unlike item 3003 it doesn't transform into another item. In order this to work I suggest to disable this item when someone with spellbook switches his smite out with another summoning spell.

2 Comments

SamBunzly1 votes

The issue with the proposed item you're trying to create, is that people can still build the AP Jungle item, and still grab a Tear of the Goddess. There's nothing stopping them from doing both at the same time. Runic Echo's now gives more Mana Regen in the jungle for those heavy on spell casting, and if they find that their mana pool is too shallow, they have another item available for that specific purpose.

Fiddlestick's ganks are currently bad because they don't have the damage to follow through. Giving him more mana doesn't help this at all. For all of the champions you've mentioned that this COULD be useful for, they'd actually be better off buying an item 3003 for that. Not only do they still get the mana regen and AP from item 1402 , but they also get a very powerful shield from item 3040

ìćęŃ1 votes

runic echoes

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