Old Yorick had a unique class combo: Juggernaut + Enchanter

Hemulen Magi··21 votes·8,647 views

I mained Yorick from 2013 until his rework in 2017. Yorick is still my highest mastery champion, I own every Yorick skin, etc., but I have barely played him since his rework, even though I still love his aesthetics and lore.

For me, the problem is that the rework weakened Yorick's role flexibility. I never mained Yorick in top lane. I would typically play him either in the Jungle or as a Support. Because I played a lot of support Yorick, my perspective on Yorick is probably pretty different than most people's, and I considered Yorick unique out of all Juggernauts as the only one with a secondary class of Enchanter.

Here is how support Yorick worked: As a primary Juggernaut, Yorick would provide a strong front-line for his lane partner even on a support budget. Melee divers and assassins wouldn't want to jump onto Yorick's partner, because then they would get a shovel a few inches into their brain matter. In this regard, a support juggernaut is sort of like a body guard who relies on the enemy to gap close onto him to try to reach his squishy lane partner.

Support Yorick would also use his W ghoul to block abilities, such as Thresh and Blitzcrank hooks, and could also body block some abilities for his partner while relying on his E and relic shield sustain to allow him to do so. Yorick also provided pretty decent lane harrassment to occupy opponents and whittle them down.

Yorick's old ultimate is what made him into a secondary enchanter, and is what I miss the most. His ultimate would summon a revenant of an ally, which Yorick could control like Mordekaiser controls his ghosts or Annie controls Tibbers. If the ally died while the revenant was active, the revenant would sacrifice itself to give the ally a temporary revive lasting 10 seconds. The revenant itself was also great as a damage amplifier on a fed marksman for example, since its stats scaled with whoever the ultimate was cast on rather than Yorick, which made it work well when Yorick was on a support budget. The revenant's damage output could provide a lot of value when knocking down objectives. The revenant could also be made to sit on top of an ally, thereby protecting them from being targeted, but that was honestly cheesy to do and I don't miss that even though it was a powerful technique only known by experienced Yoricks.

For me, this Juggernaut Enchanter playstyle was really compelling and I'd love to see a future Juggernaut Enchanter released to fill this unique niche. I'd love it if Yorick could have the Enchanter returned as his secondary subclass as I think that it fit really well with his visual/lore theme, but if that isn't going to happen, then a new champion with this kind of playstyle would be welcome.

If Riot is willing to hear the plea of a player has been close to Yorick for years, here are some tweaks that I suggest:

Passive: Make it more likely for Yorick to spawn graves early on when Yorick's allies kill nearby minions. Support Yorick can't function properly because he can't constantly farm graves with his Q, meaning he hardly gets to use ghouls in laning.

Q: Nerf its early rank cooldown but buff its early rank healing. Support Yorick can't spam Q often because he has limited relic shield charges, but he especially needs laning sustain because he will often be taking poke from both the enemy bot laner and support. Make it so that if Yorick maxes Q first, then its cooldown will quickly become spamable for the regular top laner Yorick playstyle.

W: Make W into a satisfying skill to max first in a supportive role. Make it so that its cooldown scales better with ranks. Make it so that casting W instantly causes ghoul hands to rupture from the ground at the target location and grasp at enemies within the wall radius. The ghoul hands would reduce the enemy attack speed, making trapped champions at a disadvantage to duel unless they escape the walls or kill the hands. The ghoul hands would also have collision boxes and health bars (with very little health, making AOE damage easily remove them) allowing them to block skill shots like old Yorick's W could. If balanced properly, this would make W a powerful supportive tool when prioritized to max instead of Q, without adding too much power for top laner Yorick who will continue to max Q instead. The ghoul hands would also be helpful to jungle Yorick by providing targets to tank camps for Yorick other than his mist walkers which are very important to keep alive for jungle Yorick's clear speeds.

R: I would love to see the revenge-revive mechanic brought back, but I don't expect that it would be due to the issues Riot had with coding it in the past (it would occasionally break and result in a loop of infinitely dying). If it could be made to work, I would love it if the Maiden of the Mist would sacrifice herself to temporarily revive an ally killed within a small range around her. The temporary revive could also be changed to a Guardian Angel effect, where the ally receives a true revive but balanced out by the ally regenerating only a % of their maximum health. I personally think that the temporary revive was thematically great and very fitting with Yorick, as a sort of statement that death is inevitable, but a Guardian Angel effect would likely be less problematic to code. I also wish that Yorick were able to call the Maiden of the Mist to return to him by re-casting R, because her AI can be a frustration. I know that it's been said that Yorick is meant to feel like he doesn't fully control his minions, and it's fine to lack micro-management, but an option to call her to return to Yorick as long as she is within a certain range of him would be good.

If adding these new mechanics to Yorick's W and R make him overpowered, then other strengths could be lowered to make room in his power budget. For example, his Maiden's stats could be reduced to make room for a revive effect. I am not suggesting any specific balance numbers and that sort of thing along with keeping Yorick viable and fun in top lane would come down to fine tuning. I am just providing ideas to bring back some of Yorick's old role flexibility and class uniqueness. Unless I am the only diehard Yorick support who remembers the old Yorick, I am sure some other players would appreciate this too.

16 Comments

Amorith4 votes

I remember watching some Korean Yorick players back in the day, and they never played him top lane. They played him as a poke mage mid laner lmao. Those were the days.

Hemulen Magi1 votes

Yeah, I used to do that occasionally as well. I played roughly equal amounts of top and mid lane Yorick, but never as often as jungle or support. In 2013-2015, I played him mainly as a jungler. In 2015-2017, I played him mainly as a support. Presently, I rarely play him anymore because he's too restricted to top lane and is missing his old Enchanter style in supporting. I still support with him rarely and he can do well in a few matchups where his W can peel for the allied bot laner, but it feels like post-rework Yorick was deliberately limited to top lane.

Jaghatai1 votes

I used to play him 2v1 in bot lane so we could experiment with double jungle strats.

Critmaster Garen4 votes

i miss how he absolutely obliterated teemo to the point where he hates life.

yea, the new yorick kindof still beats him, but its not the same.

there are few things in this world, that were as statisfying as making a teemos life completely miserable and make him eat his own shit by nonstop poking him until he either dies or misses out on a ton of farm when he leaves lane.

we need something like that back. i cant even use banner of command anymore to mess with his waveclear.

maybe ill try Mordekaiser into the next one i encounter and just go for w and e max.

Mordepool4 votes

I own every Yorick skin. ROFL. Your killing me. Wow. Lol. That funny. It's not funny he was Neglected for 6 years. But lol that's funny

6Sfool3 votes

I'm sorry that you miss old Yorick, but that champ is not coming back. He had a successful rework and now he's pretty much set in stone. I will admit that he lost some flexibility though. He isn't a great support anymore (but at least he has some unique tools for the role). He can still jungle like a beast though. I've never been able to carry games so hard as I can with Yorick running item 1413 item 3071 item 3025 .

I would like to see a new champ with a juggernaut-enchanter role though. I'm picturing something like a cross between Taric and Zyra. Someone tanky that makes a safe zone for their allies through a combination of utility and sheer damage.

Jaghatai3 votes

Right there with you.

New Yorick doesn't feel like a Champion. He feels like a placeholder for summoning the real champion (his ULT).

He has hardly any agency in his kit.

DragonShea3 votes

I'd like to see Yorick's Juggernaut powers doubled down upon. Make his Ult sacrifice itself to keep yorick alive for 1 second per 10% of the Maidens Max HP. Up to ten seconds of invulnerability. During this point. Yorick will deal the maidens damage to nearby enemies and will always proc mark of the maiden.

y0r1ck1 votes

Let me help you out, homie. Do this. Enjoy dumpstering gold bot lanes.

Summs: Always flash ignite.

Runes: guardian, font of life, second wind, revitalize, approach velocity, and biscuit

Skill order: Start q to get ghouls asap. Take e second so you have some pressure at level 2, just in case. W at 3 so you can start killing.

Lane phase: Get ghouls asap. You should have 4 ghouls by the time the first cannon minion dies. I like to save targons for the cannon minion but if it's dicey just q any minion you can. Play it safe until your enemy misses a skill or mispositions, toss your e on them and go for a kill. They'll probably flash. You'll get your next wave of ghouls halfway through level 4. From here I like to save them for a gank. If there is no gank spawn them literally right when you get level 6 and go in. Wait for the ghouls to die and then decide if you can push for more or need to back off, ult if you need it. Repeat this playstyle until a bot tower goes down.

From here on out, play a catcher style support while setting up vision around important objectives. When you have ult coordinate with your team to get an objective, whether that means dropping your ult top to get a dragon, splitting bot while your team does baron, or using your ult to make quick work of an objective. Whatever you need to do, each time your ult is, get something done. Even if it's stealing a buff because your dumbass adc got caught again.

Get items based on what you need for the game. If you think you can split, get zzrot. If you're on engage duty, get righteous glory. If you're peeling get locket and knights vow.

Don't pick yorick support into lucian, ezreal, trist, cait, or rakan. They're too safe to reliably beat. Zyra is risky, her snare goes through minions so you can't block it like you'd block xerath or brand stuns (just land your e on them or turn around). Don't place your wall around your adc if you can help it, place it in front so the enemy has to go around or auto it(flashing over will end up with them stuck in the wall if you placed it right). Other than that just make sure you don't go in if you miss your e.

Oh and your suggested changes are stupid, they'll make yorick waaaaaay op. And you can't just shit on everyone who plays him top or jungle to make support good.

Violet Fields1 votes

That's exactly how I felt about Urgot ADC

YoRHa 2B1 votes

I never had any chances playing old Yorick because of the infamous free rotation bug that I heard

Teridax684 votes

It wasn't actually a bug, Yorick was intentionally kept out of the free rotation, because he was considered so unhealthy that Riot didn't want him to see significant presence in the game. The same was done to a few other champions Riot really disliked prior to their VGUs, namely Poppy, Sion and Urgot.

YoRHa 2B3 votes

Really? I heard that if you would play as Yorick when he was in free rotation you would get him for free.

Teridax683 votes

Exactly! If you played him while he was on the free rotation, you'd get him for free... except he was never on the free rotation.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

YoRHa 2B2 votes

Welp, still sad that I couldn't play old Yorick

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

Apparently you could morde ult an enemy carry, and yorick ult that ghost and you get 2 fed caits on your team. Though, that was a siv video, not sure if he was trolling.

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