Skip to content

A look at skill efficiency, a measure of a particular ability in reference to a benchmark.

TerribleRyze··1 votes·680 views

Recently posted on reddit a mathematically inclined comparison of currently broken champions to the original big bad, pre rework kassadin, whose old Q and new Q have a similar score of "efficiency" to work with as a benchmark.

Introducing Skill Efficiency as a Concept.

Tl;DR: Current meta champion bans have extremely efficient abilities compared to past overpowered champions and my method can be used to balance champion releases or even identify strong champions from just pbe patch notes by creating a skill efficiency Ratio.

8 Comments

ChargeItDownMid2 votes

[deleted]

TerribleRyze1 votes

{quoted}

The problem with using skill efficiency is that mobas are based around map pressure and mobility. Any and all balance discussion needs to start by looking at those two factors before branching out.

Efficiency accurately predicts all 6 must bans. Don't believe me? Go add up efficiency for all 6 top bans on every single ability for each one. The efficiency trickles down from darius, and I guarantee if we calculated efficiency for all 151 pokemon we'd find the top 6 bans have some of the highest efficiency in the games entire history just like I proved.

while I'm on it, thanks for the respectful comments and discussion. While you may disagree with me, you have at least offered a counterposition to what I have said and pointed out something that efficiency does not account for. Thanks!

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

[deleted]

TerribleRyze1 votes

{quoted}

The problem is that it doesn't hold for any of the past patches and it won't hold for any future patches. For example, zed was one of the strongest champions towards the end of last season due to how strong his map pressure was. Since then, he received a nerf to his attack speed and the return time on his ult. Both of the changes hit his map pressure hard (one to his split push and the other to his team fight) but neither hit his skill efficiency as hard proportionally.

If you read the entirity of the post I mention subjectivity is a big part of it. Outplay potential is subjectively taken into account. The reason I chose Kassadin's Q for instance as the benchmark was that it was targeted, had good cc, had incredibly good scaling and damage and functionally had a low mana cost. In other words. It was an incredibly good ability and abilities that are more efficient than an ability removed from the game for being strong would be an excellent indicator of probable power in game.

Tahm kench is another incredibly strong outlier I found. His base stats when accounted for at lvl 6 make him EXTREMELY efficient and I sense a must ban coming after the next round of nerfs to other champions.

Ventira1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Twenty Fifth Bam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhU9ElGw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-10-11T18:25:06.460+0000)

Efficiency accurately predicts all 6 must bans. Don't believe me? Go add up efficiency for all 6 top bans on every single ability for each one. The efficiency trickles down from darius, and I guarantee if we calculated efficiency for all 151 pokemon we'd find the top 6 bans have some of the highest efficiency in the games entire history just like I proved.

while I'm on it, thanks for the respectful comments and discussion. While you may disagree with me, you have at least offered a counterposition to what I have said and pointed out something that efficiency does not account for. Thanks!

ehm..you do realize there's over 700 pokemon now, right?

TerribleRyze1 votes

{quoted}

ehm..you do realize there's over 700 pokemon now, right?

I am referring to league champions. I am not literally referring to pokemon. Skill efficiency for all 6 most frequently banned champions is off the charts.

Ventira1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Twenty Fifth Bam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EhU9ElGw,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2015-10-11T20:36:45.871+0000)

I am referring to league champions. I am not literally referring to pokemon. Skill efficiency for all 6 most frequently banned champions is off the charts.

Well don't I just feel silly.

More from Gameplay

More by TerribleRyze