Play your role or risk punishment.

theArtifacts··4 votes·596 views

Title is TLDR.

In the case of this Singed, no he was not playing support. He was playing Duo Jungle. Is that itself bannable? No.

The thing that made it bannable is that his team did not want him to play Duo Jungle (even if claiming he's support). They wanted him to play support. If he had done so he wouldn't have been banned. If you're going to go off meta to the point of which it's hard for people to tell if you're still playing your given role it's important that you get the OK to go ahead with that in the game lobby BEFORE locking in. If you don't, you're at risk for being banned.

In the case of playing support you are expected to: • Provide ways of keeping your team mates safe (CC, Vision, Body blocking skill shots, Tanking, Healing, Team Buffs) • Find ways of earning gold without taking it from your team mates • Provide opportunities for your team to secure objectives and kills (Poke, Engage, Wave mitigation if necessary - zz'rot)


Duo jungle can work Having 2 supports can work Having 2 mids can work etc. etc.

but riding those lines without checking with your team first IS reportable and could lead to a ban. You're not likely to get reported if you win but that doesn't change what you did. Win or Lose you're still putting yourself at risk so it doesn't matter if you have a 75% win rate, 80% win rate, Any% win rate. You're still breaking the rules. You can still be punished if your team doesn't agree to what you are doing.

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Colgate Gator4 votes

I don't know about you, but if the person who queues for Support picks Singed and then runs off by the whole map, leaving our ADC to fend off 2 enemies at bot lane just because "he felt like playing that" and won't even communicate, you can be 100% sure I'm going to report that person.

While unconventional strategies can work, your teammates need to be in the same boat as you, otherwise your funny ideas will only clash with what they're playing and you become a liability.

I know you're saying duo jungle, but I'll assume you mean the hot topic that has been titled around as "Support Singed".

theArtifacts1 votes

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I know you're saying duo jungle, but I'll assume you mean the hot topic that has been titled around as "Support Singed".

I feel like you didn't read the post. It's 100% OK to play support Singed (not saying it's good or recommended) as long as you are supporting. Running the whole map, taking CS, invading jungle, etc. is NOT supporting. That is NOT ok. And yes you CAN be banned for it.

Ralanr1 votes

Then you probably should have made your title look less like you were mocking Riot and siding with this Singed.

theArtifacts1 votes

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Then you probably should have made your title look less like you were mocking Riot and siding with this Singed.

What part of "play your role or get punished" is siding with the Singed who didn't play his role and was punished?

Ralanr1 votes

Because people have been very passive aggressive before.

Tone is sometimes hard to pick up online.

theArtifacts2 votes

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Because people have been very passive aggressive before.

Tone is sometimes hard to pick up online.

That's why you read the post. https://media.giphy.com/media/bW9e6Qz6Af7gY/giphy.gif

Ralanr2 votes

You ask so much of the average forum goer my friend.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/37249722.jpg

theArtifacts1 votes

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You ask so much of the average forum goer my friend.

I know right? Assume people are going to read the pages of a site that is used for posting written messages. Shit. AFK. GG. /FF

theArtifacts1 votes

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I don't know about you, but if the person who queues for Support picks Singed and then runs off by the whole map, leaving our ADC to fend off 2 enemies at bot lane just because "he felt like playing that" and won't even communicate, you can be 100% sure I'm going to report that person.

And I encourage you to do so cause they abandoned their role and took a different one.

While unconventional strategies can work, your teammates need to be in the same boat as you, otherwise your funny ideas will only clash with what they're playing and you become a liability.

100% agreed.

I know you're saying duo jungle, but I'll assume you mean the hot topic that has been titled around as "Support Singed".

Not what I was saying. I was explaining WHY he got banned and that it was deserved.

Beldair2 votes

What singed did, Yea wrong.

But if I have 0 faith in my adc, hell Yea I'm gonna roll as a Karma APC in bot. No adc is gonna drag me down when I Karma...

But I am a support main after all and still ward and do my supportive duties.. Just don't take the risks I usually would take if I trusted my adc.

And yes, Karma is usually my goto support when A) I don't trust my Support or B) The enemy support is a Caster too. There is also a C) When they got them stealth champs.

Only time I play my main man Braum, when they have champs like MF, Jinx, and Nami. No way you hitting my adc when I can still lift my shield 😉

theArtifacts1 votes

As long as you're still warding, supporting your other team mates by trying to keep them safe, and gave your ADC at least a chance to play their role there is nothing wrong with that.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Err....Some background is needed. I have no idea what you're talking about. What Singed ? Who got banned for Duo Jg ?

Selegun2 votes

I kind of know what this is about. From what I read earlier today a Platinum level Singed one trick got a 14 day ban for rolling support and going double jungle while leaving his botlaner to fend for himself. I've got mixed feelings on the subject leaning slightly more on the 'dont care' side of things simply due to how little info was presented in the initial posts.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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I kind of know what this is about. From what I read earlier today a Platinum level Singed one trick got a 14 day ban for rolling support and going double jungle while leaving his botlaner to fend for himself. I've got mixed feelings on the subject leaning slightly more on the 'dont care' side of things simply due to how little info was presented in the initial posts.

Ah cool. Thx

theArtifacts1 votes

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Ah cool. Thx

Yes this is what happened and people are claiming that it doesn't violate the summoners code cause it's okay to go off meta. But what has been stated is that it is not okay to roll one position and just take another. Even if you claim "I'm still doing __________" but the in game evidence shows otherwise it is report-able and ultimately ban-able; win or lose.

Skia Asteri1 votes

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Err....Some background is needed. I have no idea what you're talking about. What Singed ? Who got banned for Duo Jg ?

The person shown in this video or someone doing the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5jTpTHwF0

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

If his teammates say they don't want you to play something off-meta, then he shouldn't be ignoring them & still continue at his own will & stubbornness. Who cares if it works or not? This is nothing but making his teammates highly uncomfortable for the next 20 minutes they have to suffer.

theArtifacts1 votes

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If his teammates say they don't want you to play something off-meta, then he shouldn't be ignoring them & still continue at his own will & stubbornness. Who cares if it works or not? This is nothing but making his teammates highly uncomfortable for the next 20 minutes they have to suffer.

This is partially what I'm getting at. From Riot's stand point Off-Meta is 100% Okay as long as you're still playing your assigned role. If you're going to change roles (which is essentially what the dude in question did) you have to clear it with your team first. If they say no, too bad; play the role you got or get reported.

EtoTekai1 votes

I don't like it when people do a lot of things , can I start reporting them for it?

Beldair1 votes

I don't like your statement, can I report you for it?

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