I don't get Lee Sin

TheDarkDoomLord·Apr 2, 2016·2 votes·339 views

I really want to learn lee sin because he is such a strong and dynamic champion. But when I play him, I can't do anything. I find ganking lanes to be impossible, as I ward jump in q, then try to flash kick, but then they use a dash and it glitches and nothing happens, no damage or knock back, then he just runs away. I can't 1v1, as I will want to take scuttler, and then their jungler comes, and in all the lee sin montages, the people just 1v1 shyvana, mundo, and ekko without crazy mechanics, but I can't even do half of their life before I die. I played a match against a shyvana, who whenever I kicked her with ult, it would go on cooldown but nothing would happen. I have play about 20 matches as lee sin in pvp and have won about 4-5. Pls help me.

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blobs2Apr 2, 20162 votes

u need way more than 20 matches to get good at lee, i leveled my new account from 1 to 30 playing pretty much almost lee sin and i still sucked, eventually got "decent"after countless of games but gave up on him cuz its way easier to gain elo playing braindead shit like shyv,udyr,graves, etc nothing is even half as fun to play tho ;/

darkmatchwaldoApr 2, 20161 votes

What are you building on him, what runes/masteries are you running, and what's your general game plan going in? Like what is the goal on your mind when you start the game?

If they have a weak clear (or if it's basically anyone other than Shyvana Volibear ) i pretty much always go for the level 2 invade. Mastering it isn't too difficult to pull off it's just a matter of timing. Be ready to follow their flash with yours they are always going to panic and try to flash away. It's a good way to jump start your early game and more importantly, set them them behind.

From that point i pretty much live in their jungle, as long as i am keeping tabs on their laners. Generally making the enemy jungler's life a living hell.

If you're having trouble doing this, take a more passive approach. Just power farm like a boss while keeping your eyes on every lane. Do not force a gank. Don't waste your time walking all the way across the map just because the top lane is extended. Prioritize farming over ganking. If you happen to be doing gromp and see that top is overextended then go try that gank.

As for ganking, it's much easier to land your Ult if you walk up behind them. Instead of walking up from the river, take the long way and come in from behind them in the lane. You get the angle much easier that way. Save your W in case they try to flash past you. A neat little trick that i found super useful is to land a point blank Q before you hit R and then you can Q them again while they're flying through the air. It looks super cool and is a great way to easily land your combo.

TheDarkDoomLordApr 2, 20161 votes

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What are you building on him, what runes/masteries are you running, and what's your general game plan going in? Like what is the goal on your mind when you start the game?

If they have a weak clear (or if it's basically anyone other than ) i pretty much always go for the level 2 invade. Mastering it isn't too difficult to pull off it's just a matter of timing. Be ready to follow their flash with yours they are always going to panic and try to flash away. It's a good way to jump start your early game and more importantly, set them them behind.

From that point i pretty much live in their jungle, as long as i am keeping tabs on their laners. Generally making the enemy jungler's life a living hell.

If you're having trouble doing this, take a more passive approach. Just power farm like a boss while keeping your eyes on every lane. Do not force a gank. Don't waste your time walking all the way across the map just because the top lane is extended. Prioritize farming over ganking. If you happen to be doing gromp and see that top is overextended then go try that gank.

As for ganking, it's much easier to land your Ult if you walk up behind them. Instead of walking up from the river, take the long way and come in from behind them in the lane. You get the angle much easier that way. Save your W in case they try to flash past you. A neat little trick that i found super useful is to land a point blank Q before you hit R and then you can Q them again while they're flying through the air. It looks super cool and is a great way to easily land your combo.

I always go warrior first, then dead man's plate, then ravenous/tank item, and then I lose the game. I don't have runes yet because I'm a bit new. My masteries are 12-0-18. When I try to go for invades, I can't 1v1 anyone with or without a good clear. I do try to walk up behind them as much as I can but it isn't easy, as they will always have warded faster than I can clear. I have tried many different builds but am always too low damage when I build bruiser, and squishy no matter what.

darkmatchwaldoApr 2, 20161 votes

You're gonna want to save up 10-15k IP and dump it all into tier 3 runes.

Strength of Ages is good, but give a 12-18-0 page a shot for him running Thunderlords if you're having trouble dueling people early on. It can win or lose you an early game duel in the jungle.

Recently i've been rushing Warriors and then grabbing a item 3156 before going full tank. The hexdrinker passive has saved my butt a ton of times and it might solve your problem of being too low damage. When fighting someone and doing your camps, make sure to use your passive correctly and auto attack twice between each spell cast.

As for invading, if you aren't confident in your ability to level 2 cheese kill them or fight them 1v1 take the more passive approach. Around 1:15, drop a ward over the wall at either the Krug camp Or the Gromp. If you do not see them go take their Red/Blue buff after doing your first camp. You'll get the timer on it and you'll be able to steal it away as it spawns every single time for the rest of the game. Instead of invading to fight, make educated guesses on where their jungler is and invade the side that they aren't on to steal their camps.

It can really tilt someone to have their Red/Blue buff stolen over and over and over and over. It really gets under a person's skin.

TheDarkDoomLordApr 4, 20161 votes

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You're gonna want to save up 10-15k IP and dump it all into tier 3 runes.

Strength of Ages is good, but give a 12-18-0 page a shot for him running Thunderlords if you're having trouble dueling people early on. It can win or lose you an early game duel in the jungle.

Recently i've been rushing Warriors and then grabbing a before going full tank. The hexdrinker passive has saved my butt a ton of times and it might solve your problem of being too low damage. When fighting someone and doing your camps, make sure to use your passive correctly and auto attack twice between each spell cast.

As for invading, if you aren't confident in your ability to level 2 cheese kill them or fight them 1v1 take the more passive approach. Around 1:15, drop a ward over the wall at either the Krug camp Or the Gromp. If you do not see them go take their Red/Blue buff after doing your first camp. You'll get the timer on it and you'll be able to steal it away as it spawns every single time for the rest of the game. Instead of invading to fight, make educated guesses on where their jungler is and invade the side that they aren't on to steal their camps.

It can really tilt someone to have their Red/Blue buff stolen over and over and over and over. It really gets under a person's skin.

Since your first comment I have played 3 more games as Lee. In all of them I went for level 2 invade. in 2 out of 3 their jungler wasnt there. In the one where he was, I tried to get him but I actually barely escaped. Later in that game I did a invade as sson as I had warrior, and my top laner forgot to ping MIA, so we started a team fight that we lost 2/3. I always try to space out my passive, but I can't 1v1 anyone.