How about we remove Warlord's bloodlust?

which is why having it apply only to champions would be a huge step in the right direction; it would cut out a huge amount of sustain that adc's have in the early game.

Also, adc health pools are so low (lower than last season) that if they are actually focused they die VERY quickly; and then their healing doesn't matter. And yes they can kite.....and get peeled for......but you have an adc on your team too and could have them do exactly the same thing.

Whoops okay fair. For some reason I was thinking in my head Essance Reaver into Infinite edge rush, which would be 40%. But that definitely doesn't have to be your build order.

Either way, Essance reaver is usually the rushed item now simply because it gives you mana and health sustain off not only champions, but minions as well. Looking forward to the hotfix.

Yea, adc's should only reach that point in the late game, I completely agree. That being said, I would rather see incremental changes made because the synergy is so high, nerfing multiple things can result in making things too weak. Nerfing Warlords in the way it is getting nerfed has a LOT of early game impact which in turn will impact the rest of the game. So yes, while Adc's are too strong right now, Im very curious to see what happens after this change.

I still maintain the position that adc's should be doing the most damage on a team and should require team coordination to take down. In other words, adc's should be stronger than they were last patch/season; 1v1ing them shouldn't be done by disruption tanks (generally) and the value of a burst mage blowing them up or an assassin doing the same should go up. Adc's also lost a lot of base defense that they had, don't forget that not only the tanks lost out there.

I don't know now much deathfire's touch can be changed; even a 10% AP ratio on top of normal burst rotations is powerful (Look what happened with echo, I know that has base damage also but still). I mean, when I mid, I usually play Xerath, so Deathfire's touch is amazing in my book, if i hit just two champs with Q or W (not hard to do in a siege situation or decently started teamfight) I'm doing all the damage a single target spell is. Long story short, I don't think its necessarily as weak as you are making it out to be. I would be really curious to see data on how much damage it was doing over the course of the game, but alas, I don't think we will get so lucky.

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I actually don't think this is good at all. You still have the problem of giving sustain to champs who aren't suppose to have any that early. By making it champion only you ensure that a champion is buying lifesteal (delaying their crit synergy builds) if they want sustain.

But the problem is that lifesteal upon INCREASED damage is giving to the champ that crit a double advantage, which is a disaster if it is overturned because led to excessive snowball and no counterplay

The problem is that everyone here is looking at Yas/Trynd recovering from bad trades, but that mastery was supposedly for buffing marksmen, so i can understan the reasoning behind the original concept behind giving the heal on enemy units and not only the champs, that's why I kept it...but, regardless of anything, 15% lifesteal in a duel upon getting INCREASED damage is too much not only on a Yas/Trynd trade, but also on a marksmen battle or even worse on a marksmen vs melee with non very strong mobility as the range advantage alone allow marksmen to be far too powerful

I don't care if it is champ only or it's also on enemy units, really, but simply the lifesteal on crit hits CAN'T be so high on champions anyway. 15% lifesteal on a duel is TOO much, from whichever point of view you are looking at it