Maokai destroying Fiora... doesn't make sense. I'm silver and it kinda obvious Fiora is not in a good spot for a long time.... BRAMBLE VEST opened my eyes I QUIT!
Paroe5 votes@thread <removed by mod>
Fiora is strong - maokai is also strong. The perks of having very strong lane-sustain.
Perhaps your fiora shouldnt have tried to all in the CC heavy magic damage dealer in the early game when tanks base damage is still relevant?
chipndip14 votes@thread Have you tried not bitching?
**Fiora is strong **
Paroe3 votesBecause winrates mean everything and something cant be strong in a vacuum and weak in certain situations? I forget, are you one of those people that claim lee-sin is balanced because he has a 48% winrate?
chipndip11 votesIf you're whining about a 48% win rate champion you need to eat, sleep, and breathe LS coaching sessions until you get over it, for starters.
Secondly, on what planet does a 45% win rate = strong champion? Not every champ in this game is Ryze or Azir. You can't argue that a champ is strong despite an abysmal win rate for EVERY champion. Fiora doesn't have a strong pro play showing (it's occasional at best at this point). There's no reason 45% is a "strong" win rate for her.
Paroe2 votesIf you're whining about a 48% win rate champion you need to eat, sleep, and breathe LS coaching sessions until you get over it, for starters.
Secondly, on what planet does a 45% win rate = strong champion? Not every champ in this game is Ryze or Azir. You can't argue that a champ is strong despite an abysmal win rate for EVERY champion. Fiora doesn't have a strong pro play showing (it's occasional at best at this point). There's no reason 45% is a "strong" win rate for her.
Winrate doesnt mean very much in regards to champion power in a vacuum. Fiora is VERY strong - she falters against tankier champions who out-sustain her damage due to her being a SCALING champion who needs early kills to start a snowball. If she cant snowball and instead loses her advantage, she stops working as well due to her being extremely aggressive.
Also, Lee sin is one of the strongest melee AD burst champions in the game. Hes incredibly strong with something like a 20% GLOBAL pick rate. In all the millions of players globally, a 48%:20% win rate/pick rate ratio screams balanced to you!?
chipndip11 votesThis isn't going to go anywhere. No reason trying to reason with you.
BobaFlautist2 votesHave you tried not all-inning on Q cooldown?
GundrillaBus2 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhzaAxcCn-8&t=5182s
I set it where they talk about bramble vest!
Bramble vest is not balanced! If you look at Riot Meddlar reaction, it shows a clue, that the balance team didn't even start on balancing that item!
Metleon1 votesWell maokai destroys yasuo (and pretty much everyone right now) so I'm not surprised that he destroyed you. His w is point and click so you can't jump around him and his point blank q it's pretty much impossible to dodge.
chipndip11 votesYou don't GET to talk back to the hive mind.
Boulderox1 votes
is one of the few ways to counter fiora as a tank, as her passive is a very unfun and abusive mechanic, it is one way for players to get a fighting chance, as she tends to become an unstoppable lifesteal monster that has little to no drawback, until they did the change.Paroe1 votes
- Maokai is one of the few tanks that is still stupid strong thanks to his passive, and adding a counter item cranks him to 11 anyways.
But even maokai has a counter item... People just dont like to deviate from their build path.
Rajinikanth Fan1 votesFiora vs AAtrox
How to win lane
The first person to rush bramble vest and ninja tabi win lane. Hashinshin talked about this problem a lot in his stream and youtube vids.
Boulderox1 votes[{quoted}](name=blackops III,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EbEoeh8T,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2017-11-14T21:45:44.366+0000)
Fiora vs AAtrox
How to win lane
The first person to rush bramble vest and ninja tabi win lane. Hashinshin talked about this problem a lot in his stream and youtube vids.
yup, and fiora doesn't like change so it usually allows me to buy and reverse stomp :D
Daze Clover1 votesnot only that, now that the average game is 25 minutes a lot of people getting ignite in the top lane instead of teleport
łł ł ïłï ł łł1 votesBramble vest is fine, the only issue I have with it is that it makes fleet footwork utterly useless.
Daze Clover1 votesIt is confirmed Fiora is getting the Ryze treatment for one whole season.
