how does a "1 trick camp" hard champ

letsfeedtogether·Mar 4, 2019·3 votes·1,692 views

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has 12% pick rate with 54% wr? thats insane

19 Comments

Sona PingMar 4, 20193 votes

item 3161 http://i.imgur.com/KMoT0gM.png[]

letsfeedtogetherMar 4, 20192 votes

item 3161 isnt even built on her most of the times

KelgMar 4, 20193 votes

"hardest champ in the game" https://i.imgur.com/ULt1zOh.png[]

Ahri BakaMar 4, 20193 votes

She isn't that hard to play lol what's hard is using her kit to the fullest like how her one tricks do and Doing decently while not knowing much about her Animation cancel and stuff what makes her really strong at the moment

I just find it weird tho that a while ago Riven mains here posted that she is Weak and could use some buffs and actually boards agreed with it and those who hate her got downvoted and blamed for being bad for losing against Riven and saying " when enemy picks Riven it's a free win for me " What changed tho ?

letsfeedtogetherMar 4, 20191 votes

I guess you didnt see that riot them selfs said shes broken and they will nerf conq and if she will need more they will nerf her?

Frosted TipsMar 4, 20191 votes

That doesn't seem like they are admitting she is broken if they are nerfing Conqueror and then looking into how that effects her and then if it doesn't hurt her too much which it will then nerfing her. It sounds like they think Conqueror is the problem.

letsfeedtogetherMar 4, 20191 votes

even if Conqueror is the problem. it makes her broken? so she is...

Frosted TipsMar 4, 20191 votes

That is not how it works. If an item or rune is the problem then the champion abuses it, but the champion is not the problem. Riot used to always nerf champions first and then nerf the item or rune that was OP and then just leave the champion weak. Nerf the new stuff first to balance it then nerf the Champion if they are still out of line is a much better philosophy and also shows that champions are not always the problem.

Super GalaxyMar 4, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXvFcEuA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-04T12:56:23.869+0000)

She isn't that hard to play lol what's hard is using her kit to the fullest like how her one tricks do and Doing decently while not knowing much about her Animation cancel and stuff what makes her really strong at the moment

I just find it weird tho that a while ago Riven mains here posted that she is Weak and could use some buffs and actually boards agreed with it and those who hate her got downvoted and blamed for being bad for losing against Riven and saying " when enemy picks Riven it's a free win for me " What changed tho ?

What changed is the sheep who worship people like hashinshin were told by him that Riven is overpowered, and so an echo chamber began. This time, it just happened to be pretty true.

SomeOneButNoOneMar 4, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dark Står ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXvFcEuA,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-03-04T13:35:35.329+0000)

What changed is the sheep who worship people like hashinshin were told by him that Riven is overpowered, and so an echo chamber began. This time, it just happened to be pretty true.

What happened is Riven is on 15% playrate, and has 52% winrate. Instead of sucking off your own dick, on a champion that is becoming no-skill-faceroll, admit that you're one-tricking the most r%%%%%ed champion in the current meta, and let it get balanced, so that it would require skill to faceroll.

Ahri BakaMar 4, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dark Står ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXvFcEuA,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-03-04T13:35:35.329+0000)

What changed is the sheep who worship people like hashinshin were told by him that Riven is overpowered, and so an echo chamber began. This time, it just happened to be pretty true.

I'm pretty sure Hashinshin started this but idk , I'm not on both sides I just hate how Boards can change their main idea easily

Critmaster GarenMar 4, 20193 votes

Vayne how does she have 53% winrate and 25% pick rate when were not even in a tank meta?

letsfeedtogetherMar 4, 20191 votes

1 broken champ dosent mean there isnt another broken champ.

Critmaster GarenMar 4, 20191 votes

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1 broken champ dosent mean there isnt another broken champ.

im just saying vayne should have never even been buffed.

riven is this strong for how long now? two weeks since they dropped conqueror? vayne has been even stronger for much longer, and how is she not even on the nerf list for next patch?

i mean conquerors ad bonus is getting nerfed by 50%, which might bring riven back in line on its own. how long do they plan on keeping vayne broken?

SomeOneButNoOneMar 4, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXvFcEuA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-04T13:38:13.012+0000)

how does she have 53% winrate and 25% pick rate when were not even in a tank meta?

Even though I used to love playing Vayne, she just became a metapick that rolls on everything post 2 items. Deffo should revert her ult buff, and if that doesn't bring her back in line, look on to nerf her mid game, since she is meant to be a late-game-I-cri-cuz-6items-vayne kind of champion.

letsfeedtogetherMar 4, 20191 votes

as a vayne main that cannot play her anymore. agreed. every time i try shes banned or picked before me i want my old vayne back

FrozenFrostFyreMar 4, 20191 votes

first of all vayne wr is 52% and pickrate is 12%. whatever site you are using for these stats is very wrong and i would suggest not using it anymore. second of all adc champ pools are so small that high pick rates are inevitable, but given she is an adc 12% isn't that amazing.

Critmaster GarenMar 4, 20191 votes

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first of all vayne wr is 52% and pickrate is 12%. whatever site you are using for these stats is very wrong and i would suggest not using it anymore. second of all adc champ pools are so small that high pick rates are inevitable, but given she is an adc 12% isn't that amazing.

its almost 53% and 25% pick rate. has been for a month now.

look at lolalytics.

even "just" 52% with 12% pick rate would be uncacceptable for that champion.

FrozenFrostFyreMar 7, 20191 votes

Lolalytics is a garbage site with wildly inaccurate numbers. Why bother using it at all? Out of every site out there no single site can so consistently have inaccurate data. They grab games from gold players and slap it into their "plat+" it has been proven. I don't know why so many nieve players blindly believe in when every other site tells a VERY different story. 12% is not an issue for the ADC role because of how small the ADC champion pool is, other roles like mid/support/top have 60+ champions to viably pick from while ADC has almost 8-12 at any given time.