So the king of item abuse gets a new item to abuse

Hammermancer·Dec 5, 2018·71 votes·19,763 views

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Dr DogDec 5, 201856 votes

more like Jax item 3078 item 3111 item 3812 item 3146 item 3508 item 3053

RαyDec 5, 201817 votes

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This. And we ALL know it's coming, yet Riot will ship the new DD.

Prepare to get lampposted.

Bouncemaster ZacDec 6, 20181 votes

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This. And we ALL know it's coming, yet Riot will ship the new DD.

Prepare to get lampposted.

This isn't an "and yet," it's intended. Riot explicitly named Jax as an intended user for new DD in the patch notes.

Slythrin UmbreonDec 6, 20181 votes

Prepare to get banhammered to next season, Jax. - Poppy

GayFluffyUnicornDec 5, 20184 votes

Nice suicide build.

Dr DogDec 6, 20185 votes

lmao decent hp, steraks passive, essance reaver passive keeping his e up the entire team fight, gunblade and dd healing, raw dmg stats that go into his ult giving him shit loads of armor and mr, its not suicide in any way

ProfDrDeathDec 6, 20181 votes

Don't forget Transcendence with that build, though.

Dr DogDec 6, 20181 votes

na gotta gotta start with precision and grab that bloodline, then go sudden impact and ravenous hunter secondary for maximum healing

RightClick McGeeDec 6, 20181 votes

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Tried a similar build on jax since the DD change, it's pretty damn strong, however I think that the price of all the items delays jax's strength but I may be wrong. Some high-elo 400iq genius will find a way to abuse DD and it will be broken I don't doubt it

cPXt3JHpf4Dec 6, 20181 votes

lmao no jax will not build a gunblade he would have titanic

WoodakoodashoodaDec 5, 201823 votes

Twitch item 3812 It's mine! I licked it!

CurlyCrusaderDec 6, 20181 votes

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It's mine! I licked it!

Doesn't seem like it'd be that much better on twitch. His true damage is minimal.

SpecterVonBarenDec 6, 20181 votes

You'd be better off with Bloodthirster which heals for more and gives a shield.

The thigh guyDec 5, 201820 votes

Um I think you miss quoted. Here let me help you.

Jhin champion breaks everything he touches, and how he is gonna go off tank with this healing his entire healthbar every 4th shot.

Jerry SeinfeIdDec 5, 201826 votes

ya see, the boards like jhin so it's ok.

saltranDec 5, 20189 votes

When he goes to 600ms with StormR and pre nerf/fix HailOfBlades

ItS sToRmRaZoR fAuLt AnD nOt JhIn'S, hE's ThE mOsT bAlAnCeD aDc

EedatDec 5, 201832 votes

Nah Ezreal is for sure the king of item abuse.

The thigh guyDec 5, 20185 votes

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Nah is for sure the king of item abuse.

Idk about that man. Jhin has broken every new item and every item change since his release. Lethality items, guinsuu, black cleaver, stormrazor (more so than others), he even busted the hell out of triforce when that was changed around.

HammermancerDec 5, 201823 votes

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Idk about that man. Jhin has broken every new item and every item change since his release. Lethality items, guinsuu, black cleaver, stormrazor (more so than others), he even busted the hell out of triforce when that was changed around.

Ezreal been doing it since before jhin was even created, and hasnt rver fallen out of the meta no matter how many nerfs

He just finds a new build

The thigh guyDec 5, 20185 votes

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Ezreal been doing it since before jhin was even created, and hasnt rver fallen out of the meta no matter how many nerfs

He just finds a new build

Ezreal pops into the meta once every year during some change, then gets the item nerfed and goes back to being a meh pick.

HammermancerDec 5, 20185 votes

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Ezreal pops into the meta once every year during some change, then gets the item nerfed and goes back to being a meh pick.

He has been top 3 for two seasons and top 5 since release

The thigh guyDec 6, 20183 votes

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He has been top 3 for two seasons and top 5 since release

I’d like to know where you got these stats. And also if they are exclusively from Korea. Because that’s the only region with a hard on for Ezreal.

EedatDec 5, 20188 votes

Not really. He has a few items that he recycles

Ezreal on the other hand..... There is "normal" ezreal. There is blue ezreal. We had Smite Ezreal Mid with Runic Echoes and Ludens. Double tear Ezreal. Full AP Ezreal. Stack on-hit Ezreal. We even had duskblade Ezreal.

item 3153 item 3128 item 3147 item 1414 item 3146 item 3025 item 3100 item 3139 item 3042 item 3115 item 3089 item 3040 item 3087 item 3078 item 3285 item 3905 item 3135 item 3091 item 3041

PoskeDec 6, 20181 votes

Bt is actually better and always has been that 30 - 60 on hit damage doesnt matter. The attackspeed is not to relevant on Ez DFG Not really since ap ezreal couldnt farm Duskblade ? HUh no Jungle item yes Gunblade yes iceborn yes lichbane yes shimitar???? I dont see it Muraman yes Nashor NO rabadon not any better then other rab users Seraph yes Shiv no but it could happen al it takes is small change Trinity yes Ludens he literaly cannot proc Twin shadow - what? Voidstaff - no he does physical dmg with one ability wits end - no mejai - no new addition Elder lizard jungle item - yes

Stróc DúnmharúDec 5, 201813 votes

Friends, please, let's be reasonable about this!

BOTH Ezreal and Jax can and will abuse DD to devastating levels of bullshit!

Doge2020Dec 5, 20182 votes

While yes overall you statement is correct. Jax and Ez would have much more use getting Gunblade if they want to go big boi damage builds. They both have a bunch of abilities that scale with AP and the active on Gunblade can help them burst a target down faster than DD.

DD for them would be the situational and more safer version of Gunblade because of the passive. They both scale slightly less with DD because it only gives AD. yes it also does give a pretty big amount of AD, That means that their damage might be slightly lower because they didn´t fully maximize their damage by using the duo scaling on most or some of their abilities.

I feel like by adding more and trying to ¨simplify¨ I made it more confusing.

KrupazDec 6, 20182 votes

Or, the passive healing isn't unique and then can build both.

ninjaroxasDec 5, 201812 votes

"Deaths dance has become pretty strong on a couple of champs so we've made the logical choice and removed it from the game"

Velzard of KozDec 5, 20185 votes

But we'll do that after we nerfed all those champions... repeatedly... Then do no compensation after we remove the item...

The AggressorDec 6, 20185 votes

item 3812 item 3146 item 2140 Ravenous Hunter

Thats like 60% of damage that goes to healing lmao. Jax gonna be impossible to kill if hes on you.

5050BSDec 6, 20182 votes

Yep unless they make them the same unique passive.

KrupazDec 6, 20185 votes

Jax JUST item 3078 THINK item 3812 IF item 3146 I item 3508 HAD item 3053 A REAL WEAPON

SpecterVonBarenDec 5, 20183 votes

Why would Ezreal want this?

Ionian VulpixDec 5, 20187 votes

Because it belongs in a museum.

Full BrainDec 6, 20182 votes

The biggest impact will be on ad champions that deal true damage and/or magic damage who DD was already good on because the delayed damage passive already made it superior to Bloodthirster. Investing too much into burst protection on EZ just makes you trash late game compared to other ADC who have massive crit or armor pen advantages over you as well as probably an offensive keystone and you are already sacrificing early game even by adc standards by picking him.

MasterYi Jax Garen Akali Kaisa Urgot Mordekaiser Fiora Camille

Are 100% getting the delayed damage passive removed from the item or the item removed from the game altogether.

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Ravenous Hunter

Thats like 60% of damage that goes to healing lmao. Jax gonna be impossible to kill if hes on you.

The smarter thing to do is stack tenacity with Gunblade and Death Dance as well as your core ad/health items so no one can stop you from attacking long enough to kill you.

WAZZZUP500Dec 6, 20182 votes

Remember Mordekaiser passive?

dd basically gives more 33% damage reduction.

Also, mord q and e scale off ad

thecowleyDec 6, 20181 votes

What change is coming to death dance?

Nanuk PihoqahiakDec 6, 20181 votes

It now heals for any damage dealt lol.

Shazzbot69Dec 6, 20181 votes

ok what about gp?

Ale non è maleDec 6, 20181 votes

Ez like a lot the new Death's Dance, but is far from the problem with it and is far from being the champion that benefits the most from it

He is still based around hitting skillshots over and over, so if he is actually healing from its damage, he is also probably yet killing/beating you, so the result would be largely the same reagrdless of the healing.

Only the ult is problematic as a free heal tool, but at least is on an ult cooldown, so it's not that bad.

In comparison, someone like Tristana benefit way more than Ez through passive E + ult damage adding further healing to her safety tools (and tbh, that's not a bad thing since Tristana has sucked for almost a season now)

DragonSheaDec 6, 20181 votes

Better not hope that item 3146 and item 3812 don't stack.

TomiMan7Dec 6, 20181 votes

Although they are unique passives, but not named ones, so they do stack, since they are on different items.

DragonSheaDec 6, 20182 votes

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Although they are unique passives, but not named ones, so they do stack, since they are on different items.

Well They should turn DD's new passive into Omni-vamp for real. It's too much Sustain for a crazy damage meta.

TomiMan7Dec 6, 20181 votes

it is omni wamp. It heals from phisical/magical/true dmg, just like gunblade

Vlada CutDec 6, 20181 votes

If he had bork too, oh my lol

Arcanine19Dec 6, 20181 votes

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True item abusers are jax and udyr

Sweet an SourDec 6, 20181 votes

Ezreal has always been the king of item abuse, I just witnessed a penta kill from a fellow friend who only had half those items- that W hurts like you wouldn't believe!

PlsHelpIBlindDec 6, 20181 votes

Gunblade and Death's Dance don't share the same passive? Why Riot?

VexilusDec 6, 20181 votes

intensifies*

Meep ManDec 6, 20181 votes

Is it really abuse when the item was actually made for champions exactly like Ezreal? On the contrary, this is possibly one of the items Ezreal is SUPPOSED to use well.