Armor is pretty much useless when the enemy team has a jinx with fervor

adidas·Aug 23, 2016·4 votes·982 views

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GaleWinUnleashedAug 23, 20164 votes

Neither Jinx nor Fervor does anything to make your armor less effective. Attack speed has no bearing on how much damage reduction defenses give you.

adidasAug 23, 20162 votes

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Neither Jinx nor Fervor does anything to make your armor less effective. Attack speed has no bearing on how much damage reduction defenses give you.

Jinx hits around 2.3 attack speed with her minigun.

2.3 attack speed + fervor makes your armor a lot less effective than normal carries whom reach around 1.4 attack speed.

GaleWinUnleashedAug 23, 20165 votes

Hitting faster does not do anything whatsoever to ignore armor except when using Black Cleaver. She may be doing a lot of damage, and her massive attack speed goes well with Fervor, but it does not affect armor in any way.

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

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Hitting faster does not do anything whatsoever to ignore armor except when using Black Cleaver. She may be doing a lot of damage, and her massive attack speed goes well with Fervor, but it does not affect armor in any way.

Bitch i didnt say it affects armor i said armor is useless against jinx as in she melts you

Damn

GaleWinUnleashedAug 23, 20164 votes

Ah, some clarification. That does help.

Build a mix of armor and health (Randuin's is the single most efficient defensive item in the game, going by flat stats) unless you can manage to reach her and blow her up before she does the same to you. If that doesn't help, then she has such a large lead that she should be commended for getting that far ahead.

Also, care to explain the downvotes? I'm attempting to trim some aggression from my comments, and feedback could help me a bit.

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

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Ah, some clarification. That does help.

Build a mix of armor and health (Randuin's is the single most efficient defensive item in the game, going by flat stats) unless you can manage to reach her and blow her up before she does the same to you. If that doesn't help, then she has such a large lead that she should be commended for getting that far ahead.

I main adc. I main caitlyn to be exact, i dont explode tanks because i have a normal attack speed. My secondary role is top lane so i always pick a tank top never a squishy.

I usually go with shen.

I fight a normal adc besides vayne np i can tank.

I fight jinx she has 2.3 attack speed + fervor. An ADC with lord dom hitting you 2.3 times a second with fervor will shred you.

When i play caitlyn the max attack speed you get is 1.4 ish. So adding another .9 is pretty fuckin busted. I can see why people complain about my role ( adc ) because champions like vayne and jinx exist.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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I main adc. I main caitlyn to be exact, i dont explode tanks because i have a normal attack speed. My secondary role is top lane so i always pick a tank top never a squishy.

I usually go with shen.

I fight a normal adc besides vayne np i can tank.

I fight jinx she has 2.3 attack speed + fervor. An ADC with lord dom hitting you 2.3 times a second with fervor will shred you.

When i play caitlyn the max attack speed you get is 1.4 ish. So adding another .9 is pretty fuckin busted. I can see why people complain about my role ( adc ) because champions like vayne and jinx exist.

but Jinx dont crit for 2000+ damage like a Caitlyn does late game. she has more dps then Caitlyn based on attack speed but a full crit build Caitlyn will crit for 1500+ on a regular basis.

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-23T05:09:13.881+0000)

but dont crit for 2000+ damage like a does late game. she has more dps then based on attack speed but a full crit build will crit for 1500+ on a regular basis.

I have 700k mastery points on caitlyn and 70k on jinx.

I have never crit 2k on caitlyn. I dont know what fucked up -500 armor person you were fighting

but ive never hit 2000.

and ive never fuckin hit for 1500 either. If you;re playing caitlyn and you claim to hit for 1500 you're a god damn liar.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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I have 700k mastery points on caitlyn and 70k on jinx.

I have never crit 2k on caitlyn. I dont know what fucked up -500 armor person you were fighting

but ive never hit 2000.

and ive never fuckin hit for 1500 either. If you;re playing caitlyn and you claim to hit for 1500 you're a god damn liar.

http://www.leaguemath.com/critical-strikes/ this is s5 fyi which we all know damage is op this season.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2264091834/51196715?tab=stats my last played cait game i did horrible my largest crit was 1865

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2254156595/51196715?tab=stats

game prior to last game as cait i crit for 2076

adidasAug 23, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-23T05:31:58.115+0000)

http://www.leaguemath.com/critical-strikes/ this is s5 fyi which we all know damage is op this season.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2264091834/51196715?tab=stats my last played cait game i did horrible my largest crit was 1865

Those are on monsters, not champions. Caitlyns headshot does extra damage to monsters.

Also caitlyn used to have armor pen on her headshot in S5, Now she doesnt.

you are sadly mistaken.

The highest crit by caitlyn is

Caitlyn at 1246 with 5 dragons

So you telling me she hits 1500 is complete bullshit.

Also noting that 1246 is with her old passive :] You arent hitting 1200 on caitlyns headshot. Trust me bud

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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Those are on monsters, not champions. Caitlyns headshot does extra damage to monsters.

Also caitlyn used to have armor pen on her headshot in S5, Now she doesnt.

NNATE: Caitlyn's next basic attack against enemies Root icon rooted by Yordle Snap Trap.png Yordle Snap Trap or Slow icon slowed by 90 Caliber Net.png 90 Caliber Net gains additional 650 range and deals 50% + (critical chance × (1 + 0.5 × bonus critical damage))% AD bonus physical damage, modified to 150% AD versus non-champions. Additionally, Caitlyn permanently has 10% bonus attack speed and her regular basic attacks each generate a stack of Headshot (doubled when attacking from brush) granting her next basic attack the same bonus damage at 6 stacks, though this does not benefit from bonus range nor is it consumed on other instances of Headshot.

doesnt say anything about bonus damage to monsters

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-23T05:36:25.125+0000)

NNATE: Caitlyn's next basic attack against enemies Root icon rooted by Yordle Snap Trap.png Yordle Snap Trap or Slow icon slowed by 90 Caliber Net.png 90 Caliber Net gains additional 650 range and deals 50% + (critical chance × (1 + 0.5 × bonus critical damage))% AD bonus physical damage, modified to 150% AD versus non-champions. Additionally, Caitlyn permanently has 10% bonus attack speed and her regular basic attacks each generate a stack of Headshot (doubled when attacking from brush) granting her next basic attack the same bonus damage at 6 stacks, though this does not benefit from bonus range nor is it consumed on other instances of Headshot.

doesnt say anything about bonus damage to monsters

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn

Every 8th / 7th / 6th auto-attack is enhanced to be a headshot, dealing 150% damage to a champion or 250% damage to a minion or monster

tooltip in game

Meep ManAug 23, 20161 votes

You main Caitlyn, but you don't even know they changed her passive from that a while ago?

You poor man!

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn/Abilities

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-23T15:50:28.993+0000)

You main Caitlyn, but you don't even know they changed her passive from that a while ago?

You poor man!

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn/Abilities

http://i.imgur.com/9cASnyk.jpg[/img]

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-23T05:36:25.125+0000)

NNATE: Caitlyn's next basic attack against enemies Root icon rooted by Yordle Snap Trap.png Yordle Snap Trap or Slow icon slowed by 90 Caliber Net.png 90 Caliber Net gains additional 650 range and deals 50% + (critical chance × (1 + 0.5 × bonus critical damage))% AD bonus physical damage, modified to 150% AD versus non-champions. Additionally, Caitlyn permanently has 10% bonus attack speed and her regular basic attacks each generate a stack of Headshot (doubled when attacking from brush) granting her next basic attack the same bonus damage at 6 stacks, though this does not benefit from bonus range nor is it consumed on other instances of Headshot.

doesnt say anything about bonus damage to monsters

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Caitlyn

http://i.imgur.com/9cASnyk.jpg[/img]

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

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Ah, some clarification. That does help.

Build a mix of armor and health (Randuin's is the single most efficient defensive item in the game, going by flat stats) unless you can manage to reach her and blow her up before she does the same to you. If that doesn't help, then she has such a large lead that she should be commended for getting that far ahead.

Also, care to explain the downvotes? I'm attempting to trim some aggression from my comments, and feedback could help me a bit.

yea i posted about hp/armor and damage reduction items like item 3110 item 3047 item 3143 item 3075 and got down voted.

Meep ManAug 23, 20161 votes

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Bitch i didnt say it affects armor i said armor is useless against jinx as in she melts you

Damn

Excuse you...

2.3 attack speed + fervor makes your armor a lot less effective than normal carries whom reach around 1.4 attack speed.

You did

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-23T15:46:23.102+0000)

Excuse you...

You did

http://i.imgur.com/9cASnyk.jpg[/img]

There you go monkey.

GaleWinUnleashedAug 23, 20161 votes

I can explain armor in more detail if you like.

IcyPepperAug 23, 20162 votes

Isn't she a hypercarry? Isn't she supposed to melt tanks in the late game at full build?

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20163 votes

FLAT ARMOR ISNT ENOUGH. YOU NEED HP AND THINGS TO REDUCE DAMAGE. IF JINX IS YOUR PROBLEM TRY item 3143 item 3047 item 3075 item 3053 item 3110 item 3742 item 3068

adidasAug 23, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-08-23T04:23:53.105+0000)

FLAT ARMOR ISNT ENOUGH. YOU NEED HP AND THINGS TO REDUCE DAMAGE. IF JINX IS YOUR PROBLEM TRY

Yes you're right. Let me completely void my titanic hydra and any mr

SlythionAug 23, 20164 votes

he never said build all of those mr. salt

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20165 votes

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Yes you're right. Let me completely void my titanic hydra and any mr

OK, the major threat on the enemy was Jinx yes? no AP damage. if you stack armor with hp even though you have little to no mr your hp will help the ap damage so you can survive Jinx and focus and kill her. if you go item 3748 item 3047 either item 3110 or item 3143 or item 3742 with you have aoe slow on autos which can help entire team with you have hp/armor which the hp will help with damage. and you have movment speed passive that will give bonus damage on an engage or will reduce her crit damage attack speed on you and give hp to help with item 3748 and an aoe slow to maybe be able to help catch Jinx . if you truly need mr cuz their ap carry is that strong then item 3102 which will help with hp regen when you take damage, a shield to block abilities or cc so maybe Jinx cant use chompers on you. or a item 3065 which is hp cdr mr and the hp stacks for your damage on item 3748 . so far lets say item 3047 item 3143 is your build you can still get item 3071 item 3075 item 3068 item 3083 item 3072 item 3022 item 3026 any two of these as last two items. there are ways to manage.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2016-08-23T04:37:19.096+0000)

OK, the major threat on the enemy was yes? no AP damage. if you stack armor with hp even though you have little to no mr your hp will help the ap damage so you can survive and focus and kill her. if you go either or or with you have aoe slow on autos which can help entire team with you have hp/armor which the hp will help with damage. and you have movment speed passive that will give bonus damage on an engage or will reduce her crit damage attack speed on you and give hp to help with and an aoe slow to maybe be able to help catch . if you truly need mr cuz their ap carry is that strong then which will help with hp regen when you take damage, a shield to block abilities or cc so maybe cant use chompers on you. or a which is hp cdr mr and the hp stacks for your damage on . so far lets say is your build you can still get any two of these as last two items. there are ways to manage.

lol i got down voted cuz i purposed ways to handle a fed adc. lol instead of just agreeing with the OP that Jinx with fervor of battle is broken/op bullshit as he stats.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

KVbqbFsC8eAug 23, 20162 votes

item 3036 is the problem.

Michael702Aug 23, 20161 votes

A fed Jinx is a scary Jinx.

FududlesAug 23, 20162 votes

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A fed Jinx is a scary Jinx.

Yup ... any fed adc is a scary thing to a tank period (specificly vayne lol)

% health true damage Op ' ish Thats why vayne has a lower range then say ashe or that would be way op

#xD

Fucking ShitAug 23, 20161 votes

Tanks absolutely crush all ADC's right now so this post is retarded lol

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 23, 20161 votes

your last game as cait in ranked you crit for 1336, game before 1734, game before 1134.

adidasAug 23, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EWb4wPus,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-08-23T05:45:28.528+0000)

your last game as cait in ranked you crit for 1336, game before 1734, game before 1134.

Do you not fuckin read? i said thats on monsters only. your headshot is 250% on monsters

SpoofghoulAug 23, 20161 votes

Malphite item 3089

why build armor when i can make that problem go away by pressing R

ZacsRealmAug 23, 20161 votes

It's almost like DPS-based Marksman hypercarries such as Jinx, Vayne, and Kog'Maw are meant to effectively shred through tanky characters. [zombie-brand-facepalm]