Anyone see the Bard buff on pbe?

Caretaker Jack·Nov 22, 2017·8 votes·608 views

"Bard ****Caretaker's Shrine (W) shrines active at once changed from 2/3/4/5/6 to 3/3/4/4/5"

Does this even make sense? Why would an early dependent champion, like Bard, consider losing his early damage to have more than 3 shrines? Is the heal ratio, cdr, or mana cost getting adjusted too? Is riot seriously going to make Bards early game weaker when he's already at his lowest point?

Bard's win rate has plummetted since preseason... Do you mean to tell me this was the best they could do after all that "investigating?" What the bootie scootie is this!?

8 Comments

AgentBlackNov 22, 20172 votes

Yeah, I don’t think this was the right direction. Bard’s W still asks me to spend 90 mana (1/4 of his base mana pool) for 70 health (useless beyond level 4) after waiting 10 seconds (not to mention the punishing 12 second cooldown between casts). Ranking it doesn’t solve any of these issues except the heal value, which is still lackluster and by no means worth maxing over a game changing mobility spell. But now, if I max W second, I get to have...more of them? Cool...?

Existential BardNov 22, 20172 votes

Bruh, shrines are where it's at! You go full tank and sustain! You don't need damage because of scaling with chimes.

Caretaker JackNov 22, 20175 votes

Bards meeps can gain high base damage, but they scale separately from his other skills. NONE of which scale based on health... But you wouldn't understand any of this considering you're in bronze and don't even play Bard. -__-

Existential BardNov 22, 20173 votes

Umm first look at my name. Second, I have over 200,000 exp on Bard. Instead of attacking someone who loves the same champ, how about you chill? I'm in bronze because I don't play ranked often.

Soraka is SO HOTNov 22, 20171 votes

Why are you being a dick?

All of your matches, you build full HP/resist, with the exception of and .
Existential Bard literally never said that has HP or resist scalings.
Rank-shaming? _ Seriously_?
Your post is speculative and vague with no substantiating evidence as to a Bard early damage nerf. Don't assume people know what you're talking about in your head. If you had a more complete thought, post that instead of belittling people who take time to comment on your thread.

Caretaker JackNov 23, 20171 votes

1.) This point proves that I've been using it, so I would know weather it works or not... (duh?)

2.) I don't have to accuse him of anything to make this point. Stop projecting.

3.) Really. I'm sorry it hurts your feelings, I'm just making the statement that he is lacking the game knowledge and champion experience to back up his point. Why should I let this guy, who doesn't play Bard, spread misinformation and potentially push in a nerf for the people who actually play him?

4.) Like 5 people disagree with you... Ever think this is only vague because you don't understand the actual discussion? Like, anyone can see that you wont get more shrines unless you max the heal which means you are maxing Q second... Which means less damage. (And if you max W second, then it's as if nothing changed because Bard is an early focused champ.)

You obviously jumped into this to talk about the ethics of rank shaming, but nobody cares. This is my main were talking about, so if you come in here hyping a nerf, It's just common sense that I'd correct you. Sorry.

TheMightyHUGNov 22, 20171 votes

I like playing a tanky playmaker bard. I don't like playing a tanky healbot bard. I also don't like playing a tanky right click machine tbh. kind of miss pre 7.7 bard really, weak as he was. It somehow always felt like you were outsmarting people.

TheMightyHUGNov 22, 20172 votes

I agree it's the wrong kind of buff

I don't think this buff will be effective at addressing bard's problems (mostly involving people getting killed before he can do anythng to save them, because for some reason everyone is squishy in preseason). More importantly IMO this I think it's a step in a more boring direction. Shrines are boring. Q is fun. R is fun. E is fun. W is just so the ADC doesn't tilt. I get that riot wants to buff the weaker parts of bard's kit, but this encourages maxing W over E, which in turn encourages less ballsy roams and more sitting back placing heals.