So I just want to ask Riot, why do you keep giving me trash ADC?

GhostOfTsushima··2 votes·2,180 views

I swear, my bot is always complete trash.

I wish I was being toxic for no reason but like its FACT, every game I have.....

My bot is always feeding and losing lane.

But they think they're good.....

This world has gone to shit, when my 0-12 adc said he is very good

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Hayaishi22 votes

Bot lane is entirely up to the support tho.

saltran1 votes

Karma.

ê chani1 votes

need to learn how to use op.gg and dodge

Doge20201 votes

EDIT: sorry for this giant wall of text but I like to get all of my ideas out first, organize it to a way I can understand then edit or send clarification comments later.

Either just get better and get to a higher rank so that you stop playing with “trash” ADC’s, or duo with a good ADC main and trust that he/she can reliably get fed in the best circumstances, and can stay even in farm if your bot lane is starting to lose lane.

Even if somebody that you trust feeds you have to understand the matchup and differences in skill too. It’s just like when people view top lane or any other lane. there are a ton of factors that affect if a lane feeds or not, like skill matchups of the players in the lane and their game knowledge of the respective champs, or the probability of one champ winning against the other with the same player skill. When you view bot lane you also have to factor in the supp champs played on each team and the skill lvl/differences between the two supp players. And also the junglers that will most likely gank bot too.

Sorry for that wall of text but the Tl;DR is to not look at the score of a person and say “GG we lost bot feeding and they are trash”. There are a ton of situations that you didn’t see that might have resulted in them constantly dying and losing the lane. It doesn’t have to just be skill or anything either, it could just be that somebody made a mistake, the other team exploited the mistake and won lane because of it. I have done that a few times when I am in an unfavorable matchup.

For example: I’m Kayle and the enemy is Irelia (with Rengar jungle) they tower dive me after chunking me a lot when I was running to my tower. I activate R a little bit before I die and auto attack the Rengar with W on CD and kill him with tower, I also Q the Irelia so she is slowed under my tower and taking turret shots after Rengar dies. I proceeded to use my lethal tempo and my E to kill her. In this example I used the mistakes of my laner, and the abilities in my kit to help me outplay the Irelia and Rengar. (that was a real game and sadly I did lose it lol, but that was because jungle, Akali mid, and the kalista adc got so fed that veig and I couldn’t reliably scale, help get the 0/12 Xayah a kill and comeback)

And btw there is an option for you to learn ADC yourself and play ADC too. That way you can try and carry games too and you can also realize that all the factors that I said are true when it comes to the probability and/or chances of your bot lane winning lane.

Zurazabeth1 votes

Up "Oh no Annie "'s post about using op.gg, in this later seasons it's just essential to use to your advantage.

You do have a positive KDA, so climbing is just the matter of time, as ELO system should work.[2.5 stays, 3+ climbs] But you getting bad bots might very much be a couple reasons I experienced and can share here...

Since Riot never really care about individual players anymore, while busy focusing their world wide influence and E-sport revenue, the community become worse every passing season.

Back in season 2~3, a kda of steady 3+ always gets out of that ELO real easy, I usually got to Plat under 100 rounds. But that is because the game was balanced, all players are in their true ELO, so one person doing better can easily change the out come.

After seasons that Riot had their world announced success, not only a swarm of players joined, some players see cash grab opportunity when players play "ranked" for it's tier reward, and many started ELO-Boosting.

Main Reason: games are rarely balanced nowadays Elo boost and effect two type of unbalancing, for example;

1.suppose you are playing in mid-gold, but since many players pay boosters, and they mostly duo, you will have some high elo player stomping the game, you can be on either side, strange easy win or unfair difficulty. has RIOT done anything about it? nah not really, it will spend too much money and it's not effecting their revenue now. 2.once a player has their service done, meaning a bronze has been boosted to diamond, and they will start playing again while dropping tiers, chances are you are of course either in their team or not, and I think this is your situation, when you see someone goes 0/10 and still finding time to type excuses rather than focusing, it's mostly those post-boosted players telling you that they were diamond and you need to shut up. 3.since bots consist of potential dps in team fight and to push for first tower and later buildings, two kills of gold and exp, it's only natural a higher tier elo-booster will decide to begin their attacks there. 4.boosted players have many reasons to play bot, they are not comfortable and incompetent to play any solo lane without making obvious result[feeding], so you might call it a false sense of security of two players in lane might give them an edge. plus most low-elo minds thinks dps is the only way to win the game, while sadly that's why they stuck in the low-elo.

[up on these facts from experience, the games that use ELO method will need more numbers than usual to determined an individual's place, since games were rarely balanced with honest elo players][I used to get out of gold under 100 rounds, now I need 250+]

Riot's response to this issue: last time I played, I see roughly 60% in game Elo-boosters posting their ads after a stomping round, they boost from bronze to high Platinum, since most players only boost to diamond, and no amount of report, screenshot, op.gg records could convince Riot support to look into any case, and start banning boosters or boosted accounts, so you naturally sees them everywhere and increasing. Gets paid $10~$20 a round to stomp low elo players, with no real consequence to face, and encouraged by newly developed simple rune system[meaning no account need to grind for runes to start boosting]. Then I guess it's just time to let go.

I have been with League since their beta, but stopped completely around 2017, I have stick up to their game direction changes that stopped being innovative and fun, forced to play in a competitive style, but their player management has became worse then I originally imagined.

TLDR What you have experienced here, is simply poor player management resulting false ELO in most games, and thus, you either use op.gg and figure out how to avoid Elo-booster or boosted.

Tip[and it worked]; 1: Dodge when you see you have team mate dropped more than one tier/5+ divisions[boosted], start to record names and separate them in different brackets, so you'll know when you see someone you've played with.

2:dodge when you were in queue and someone dodged/left the queue, and other 9 players including you restarted the queue, that means someone "saw" the unstable players and decided to dodge, and you are currently queued with said player, chances are they will be your team mate.

3:have down time after each Ranked, first you will have time to rest, 2nd you can reflect and study the detail, last but not the least, if you encounter strange players[booster-boosted], they won't be queued with you again if they kept going.

P.S For me personally I don't mind playing ranked to grind true ELO, yes I have the time, yes I love games that gives a challenge. But what bug me the most is the way RIOT treats the obvious situation, they turned their eyes towards team based competition event revenue rather than making effort to improve individual player experience such like you and me. But then it's an extraordinary free game, that I rarely pay anything for it, so I guess I shouldn't ask soo much haha

LetMeCarry19831 votes

I wanna know why they give me a whole trash team every game. I'd be happy for a trash ADC only.

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