Well more like you took everything from me
Blue buff gone, Red buff gone
My whole top laner denying me my own top camp Mid taking my birdies
And now you want me to help you?
I'm paralyzed...
ShishouMatt26 votesAnd they ping spam if you went in to help scare off their gank from the farming you were doing and you take a few minions for the trouble.
Or the ones who get mad you take over their lane when they are respawning/traveling.
Durzaka8 votesOr the ones who get mad you take over their lane when they are respawning/traveling.
this is a legit thing to get made about tho. A lot of junglers dont understand wave management (a lot players dont even) and when "holding" a lane can instead create a slow push towards the enemy that they will then freeze and fuck your laner out of any cs.
GayFluffyUnicorn7 votesI can't count the amount of times even in diamond my jungler legit lost my lane just by pushing wrong (mid or top doesnt matter) and giving my enemy a free triple wave. Suddenly i barely hit 5 when they are already 6 which especially in those two lanes means you are dead and useless.
Pinkaj2 votesAnd they ping spam if you went in to help scare off their gank from the farming you were doing and you take a few minions for the trouble.
Or the ones who get mad you take over their lane when they are respawning/traveling.
Omfg I feel this as a support main...I pinged three different times and said in chat to "watch bot" because there's a huge minion wave coming, but nobody goes to pick it up so I go to clear it with what little damage I have and I get "fuck off my farm"
Whai ;~;
There's also the time where you ping in river/jungle that mia from lane/be careful but nobody listens :(
MCNT0521 votesAnd they ping spam if you went in to help scare off their gank from the farming you were doing and you take a few minions for the trouble.
Or the ones who get mad you take over their lane when they are respawning/traveling.
That annoys me to no end. 12 minions are mid tower, Yasuo just respawned, I'm at mid LAST HITTING the minions currently ATTACKING HIS OWN TOWER. He is aaages away, what do I get?
! ! ! ! ! !
It's just like...how? Why? How do they not realise it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to interact with the minions AT ALL?! It's either you got the chillest of dudes or fucking Gordon Ramsay.
Barkley17 votesI quit jungle this preseason.
I like the chess game. The cat and mouse. I like planning and strategy. I like counter jungling and getting a level advantage over the enemy jungler. I like gimping the enemy jungler by foiling his gank and then taking a whole side of his jungle.
Those are the things that make me feel good as a jungler.
None of those things even exist right now. Its just gank, gank, gank, gank, gank, gank, gank. Hope my team carries me past the mid game because I'm worthless because I literally never have time to farm, and post-midgame my entire jungle is constantly gone to my laners.
GhostOfTsushima2 votesI quit jungle this preseason.
I like the chess game. The cat and mouse. I like planning and strategy. I like counter jungling and getting a level advantage over the enemy jungler. I like gimping the enemy jungler by foiling his gank and then taking a whole side of his jungle.
Those are the things that make me feel good as a jungler.
None of those things even exist right now. Its just gank, gank, gank, gank, gank, gank, gank. Hope my team carries me past the mid game because I'm worthless because I literally never have time to farm, and post-midgame my entire jungle is constantly gone to my laners.
You have 0 jungle game....
Barkley11 votesYes... as I said, I quit jungle this preseason... so yeah... I have zero jungle games.
But that's not even true, so...
Check previous seasons, my dude. Also, most stat websites don't consider norms. Also, Jarvan is my 2nd most played champion right now, ranked. So I'm really not even sure what you're getting at.
Marshbouy8 votesI completely agree. I got sick of jungling because I realized that I only won when I did constant ganks. It made it so much less fun.
Barkley8 votesThe cerebral aspect of jungling is just completely absent right now, and its fucking tragic.
Entheos Geon2 votesWhat? Gimping the other jungler is even more brutal this season with the removal of catch up xp in the jungle.
Barkley6 votesThere's never time. And the enemy jungler doesn't even care, he's too busy ganking. That's all jungling is right now. Gank gank gank gank gank gank. Doesn't even matter if you fall behind in exp.
Battalion1 votesThat's the only reason why I can get -some- free Kindred marks. They always leave their Gromp/Krugs up so if it spawns on one of those I prance on over and take it. Too bad that Kindred's early game ganks are not as great as others, due to a single singled target 50% 1 second slow. Frustrating times indeed.
Disulfiram13 votesAnd then "Lol troll jungler 60 cs @20 mins" XD
Death by Glamour13 votesand once the towers begin to fall and people group mid you still get spam pinged for taking 3cs in a sidelane
SangreDeNoche1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pink Leg Warmers,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=glOZ3FaM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-12-16T18:04:50.865+0000)
and once the towers begin to fall and people group mid you still get spam pinged for taking 3cs in a sidelane
And spam pinged for taking your camps instead of grouping to have a staring contest with the enemy team.
Dream High3 votesWell if you're farming bot when baron is up we've got a problem.
AirKingNeo10 votesJunglers don't even farm anymore. Who cares if someone takes a camp? You should be ganking.
EDIT: Seriously, Riot has pushed so far away from farming jungle and towards ganking it's made jungle too important of a role to fuck up.
MetalGearTeemo8 votesFor every sob story junglers tell I have my own top lane story of
About to secure ez solo kill first blood with one more auto jungler flash auto's to take first blood after contributing nothing to kill smites canon and takes 2 melee creeps on the way out as tax. Thumbs up
[darius-angry]
Champion Skin1 votesAbout to secure ez solo kill first blood with one more auto jungler flash auto's to take first blood after contributing nothing to kill
It gives the team 200 more gold and kills don't give that much gold to begin with and is more powerful for putting the enemy behind because they don't get gold or exp when they are dead (though TP does mitigate this to some degree)
Lauchmelder1 votesI even expect my jungler to help me clear the wave if we get a kill. The faster it hits the enemy tower the faster I can B and buy.
Troll for Trump6 votesIf only this were true, and it weren't jglers afk farming and only coming up to gank bot and neglecting everyone else
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes^ Can't remember when i didn't have to flame my jungler in ranked and it's legit always the jungler. I'm not even memeing. Hecarim hasn't ganked once and only farmed. Vi was toplane three times and killed me two times (not much i can do against malph R+vi R), vi is 4/1 with 100 CS meanwhile our heca at 60 and 1/0 goes bot to int 1/1 and i'm like ?????
Game before that? I'm camille vs sion, expecting the lvl 3 lee gank so i piled up a huge wave in front of sions turret, lee comes i kill him, sion comes in to save him i kill him. Double kill 3 mins into the game. Meanwhile our jungler ints bot 3v2. I kill sion i'm 3/0 obviously lee once again 3/1 meanwhile our jungler? ints midlane. Like i don't get it. Jungle is sooo impactful right now and it's only a coinflip on which jungler ganks and which jungler farms and pretty much every game is decided by that and if they gank then it's only botlane. Like yeah botlane is a huge thing currently but when the enemy jungler brings a tank against a fighter ahead and some snowbally ahri, syndra, ori vs our jungler bringing the ashe janna botlane ahead, guess what happens.
Troll for Trump1 votesMy sentiment right now is literally every single role I'm not playing as ends up doing poorly and it tilts me. I'm not jgling? We get an AFK farmer who refuses to gank and has no objective sense. I'm not top? Autofilled guy who has no idea that top lane isn't brainless and becomes useless I'm not mid? Get ready for the snowballing 4/0 assassin I'm not support? Autofilled guy
The only one excluded from this is ADC, the only role I don't play. Although a lot of times they either do poorly or really well, I still give them credit for trying because for me, playing as an ADC just feels cancerous.
Kuronii Lumiira4 votesThe understand that feel. It's annoying. And then ADC takes wolves+gromp.
LEØNE4 votesEXACTLY! They expect us to be there at all times when they need help but when they need it they say "You are trash" [zombie-brand-mindblown]
Battalion4 votesWhen then Jungler is to be held accountable:
You're low on mana because you spammed abilities and have no concept of mana control nor decide to take a mana item.
You're being out damaged by the enemy ADC because you gave them first blood and they came back with more items.
Instead of playing passive in any of these scenarios, you decide to continue to be overly aggressive, making the problem worse.
Enemy Jungler is ganking you, not due to your 2 charges on your yellow trinket, but because your Jungle doesn't put enough pressure on the other lanes.
Enemy jungler is camping you because your jungler is putting pressure on other lanes; again not due to your 2 standing charges on your yellow trinket.
Enemy smite steals baron/dragon/herald because that jungler has 2 levels up on you due to any of the aforementioned reasons. It doesn't matter that's 200HP+ difference in true damage and it's the jungler's fault because they did not power farm the jungle while maintaining constant, but equal, lane pressure and without soaking exp or taxing lane as well as giving both raptors, gromp, and krugs to mid, top, and bot lanes.
When you lose the game.
When the Jungler is not to be held accountable:
DKM Bismarck2 votesbut it is ludicrous when you are getting camped with ALL YOUR TRINKET WARDS DOWN and you tell your jungler to just pressure other lanes and not bother trying to salvage your lane, that they come to your lane to get counter ganked and for the enemy orianna to get a double kill, that's absolutely wonderful :)
Battalion1 votesThis just proves you didn't see them smoking a fat one with the Krugs. You thought they were slow to gank? You ever seen a krug move? They're so chilled out it's like they don't care. Work on your map awareness and don't post stupid things.
Memes aside, there's bound to be crap junglers, that's on them entirely.
Sraeg20133 votesI haven't seen anybody, except the jungler, take a jungle camp in early game this season yet.
Zerenza1 votesThat's pretty common, since Season 6 i believe, it's better for the jungler to get their farm then start ganking(though there was that one strategy at the begining of season 7 where you'd duo jungle for the first 3 camps.) Basically it's to costly for laner's to leave lane and get a camp without their jungler now, sure you can give them Red or Blue, but that's always after first clear and some jungler's like Hecarim really appreciate having either of them regardless of the time of the game. I for one like to take my Blue Buff when playing evelynn, unless my Mid laner needs it more, if i'm doing more for the team than him, i take it, if not i give it away.
Sraeg20133 votesI stopped getting any buffs as the mid-laner like... 2 seasons ago. Unless I did them myself, that is.
Also stopped asking for any since everybody is a selfish prick who'll never give them when you need them the most.
Mimr1 votesI stopped getting any buffs as the mid-laner like... 2 seasons ago. Unless I did them myself, that is.
Also stopped asking for any since everybody is a selfish prick who'll never give them when you need them the most.
Thing is that the second red and blue buffs give the jungle a big XP bump so they can reach level 6 in a more-or-less timely fashion. If you take 2nd blue from them as mid you better win your lane hard for putting your jungler at a big level disadvantage.
the weeaboo3 votes"Please report [jungler], didnt gank once all game"
No 
I literally cannot gank as 
, when you've autoed every single minion, push your laner under THEIR turret, shroom every wave, and don't ward to prevent the inevitable ganks.
existingdark3 votesJust ignore people. If they're gonna bitch they never wanted to win the game in the first place.
Scary Door2 votesClassic upvote farming, bravo.
Karfuss2 votesGiven how quick games derail and become one sided, Jungle is slowly but surely losing its relevance.
After getting level 3 and both buffs, you don't have time to farm. It's a race against the enemy jungler to gank more often, and more successfully. There isn't even a point in counter jungling. It's a waste of precious time you could spend getting your bot lane snowballing, before you hit the mid game redundancy wall where everyone, but their jungler (and whoever fed), has out scaled you.
Obviously this was destined to happen, when you force feed everyone so much power in a level 1 keystone, and provide NOTHING beneficial to the jungle role outside their interaction with champions. You're now forced to gank and abuse that power as much as you can. May seem drastic but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Juggernaut + Support top lanes in Season 8, just imagine a Cho'Gath WITH a Lulu.
Z3Sleeper2 votesIs this a song?
Crede7772 votesMe as jungler: I'm going buff -> gromp -> buff -> top at level 3.
I'm at my 3rd buff: First blood, top laner dead.
Me: ...
Disulfiram1 votesThen top spam-pings you and writes "/all gg noob jungler 0 ganks".
Sraeg20136 votesYou said "Buff -> Gromp -> Buff -> gank top", but then you somehow end up at another buff before the gank?
I know how that top laner must've felt. "Oh, he finished the blue buff, he's going to gank now!" starts fighting "NEVERMIND he walked past top lane and went for the enemy red buff instead."
You have been slain.
Iffy Jarl2 votesLove when enemy laners start invading my jungle and my laners cant be bothered to stop farming for 2 seconds to collapse, but if I take 2 steps into enemy territory to try and ward i get a search party out for my ass
SEKAI2 votesYeah trying to clock farms in as jg when everyone is taking your shit left and right is just painful, if not almost impossible to deal with these days. I also feel this very same pain when I play mid too, everyone and their mother just rush to mid to farm, primarily it's the bot lane who does this; like wtf, give me SOMETHING?
But nothing gets me as much rage as it does when I'm trying to steal a dragon or other objectives as jg, while knowing there isn't an enemy ward in the pit (either I've cleared them earlier, waited its timer out, or deduced that there isn't any given the enemy's lack of reaction towards me being in there), and you @#%^# have to hit the scouting plant to tell everybody that I'm right there. Fuck these people. Seriously, fuck them. What they hell were even going through their brain for them to do that?
These days, I've retired from jg. I'm more of a mid and top player now. I can't handle being tasked to essentially be the god of the rift, a bit too mentally taxing over some time and I needed the break (and yeah, as mentioned I still have to deal with the "everybody is taking my stuff, especially you bot lane" problem too. But oh well...).
Krynin2 votesBeing a jungler in LOL is like being a goalie in sports.
Even if your team can't score a SINGLE POINT all match, they will blame you for letting in even one score and "losing them the match".
Like, the whole team is getting destroyed - what the hell do you expect me to do? It's not my fault the laners/field players are getting outclassed, and it's not like I'm not trying my best.
We have our own enemy jungler to think about too, you know. We can't just be in lane helping all the time. :/
Pantheön2 votesWhat I've learned so far from lol is that the Word Toxic is = Lol. And the relationship between jungler and team can often be quite toxic.
As someone who's trying to learn to OtP I play pretty much every role at the moment. What I experience, and I'm only level 27, is that neither jungler or the rest of the team know how to play tbh.
People over extend and blames the jungler when they get ganked/or don't get ganks.
People run for kills when half of the enemie team is mia, blaming the jungler for not thus ofc that's why they got killed.
Kills over objectives seems to be the meta.
Jungler yells at a 0/5 top who keeps getting ganked to "stay safe ffs" not realizing that it would be wise to gank that lane and help the laner out.
Blames everyone for not warding when and stops ganking lanes. When he/she could just buy a ward and save the laners.
Now I can be wrong, but if my team fails I pretty much think that I fail aswell cause it has to be something I can do to keep my bot safe right?
As I wrote, I'm only level 27 and perhaps ranked games are of higher quality. Though I doubt it lul.
WubbaLubbaDubDab1 votesas a jg main what makes me MAD is when someone(mostly yasuo players)push like hell keep dying when i tell them to def and then blame me for 0 ganks
Janakin1 votesOr when you step in the bush to counter gank and they start spamming pings on you, even though you place control ward in there, so you know the enemy didnt see you.
Dorans Pants1 votesyeah it´s even worse than supports. as a support you have take abuse from one guy (the boosted adc), but as a jgl it´s your entire team. Everyone expects you to win their lanes no matter the circumstances, basically ganking non stop, while not falling behind in exp and cs. You are also supposed to get all objectives even though your team has lost complete control over the map.
there is only so much a jgl can do.
blaze the pyro1 votesI main jungle and top, my friends drag me around as a support.... I know this pain, and usually when people are total jerks when Im jungle or support, I just send in all chat some stupid line like "I feel I should tell the toxic ass (insert lane here) about this ancient RPG proverb, don't piss off support, or risk death by lost of ganks" then if he doesn't realize hes being an ass after that, I just mute him and forget his lane exists
dosn't help that my main junglers are team reliant, and my main supports are sorta broke atm
Wigglepufftuff1 votesThis is why i'm sooooo happy to be bronze right now. I can go Kayn SA and just delete their adc unless im like 0/5 beforehand