im sure theres nothing wrong with playing a melee now. nope. not a single wrong thing. 5th game in a row now. 6th game in a row now, vs a hiemer who rushed zhonyas. fuck you riot. seriously. whats funny is that i died twice because i got stuck in the turrets. but hey "melees dont have trouble". thank god for creep block still existing towards melees only.
new years resolution : donate a brain to the balance team.
CharQueen4 votesThis is why you get with the program and play a Ranged Top. Mainly Teemo.
Demonsolder211 votesStick it to the OP.
CharQueen2 votesI wish this would. Until Riot releases better items for Melee Vs. Ranged, Top Lane is quite screwed.
Best item idea I've seen: +HP +Defense vs Ranged -Movement
Raptamei2 votesWhy don't you pick a ranged top as well?
This is like complaining that terrans must build tanks in Starcraft.
BlackRaven3 votesWhy don't you pick a ranged top as well?
This is like complaining that terrans must build tanks in Starcraft.
because im trying to have fun? im not trying to rape the enemy laner, i want my skill level to matter, not my champion.
Joe Dredd3 votesomg bby i luv u
Raptamei1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Lee Sin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUlXp6Ka,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-01-01T23:31:27.998+0000)
because im trying to have fun? im not trying to rape the enemy laner, i want my skill level to matter, not my champion.
Knowing the meta and picking a strong champion is also skill.
"Ya I know this is a car race, but I'm bringing my bicycle because I like biking. Wtf, I lost? This is so unfair, they should enforce bikes!"
ELABYED252 votesKnowing the meta and picking a strong champion is also skill.
"Ya I know this is a car race, but I'm bringing my bicycle because I like biking. Wtf, I lost? This is so unfair, they should enforce bikes!"
It would be more accurate if you said that they invented cars and he just dont wanna give up his bike Because that's what happen There is a change and people doesn't accept it Neither do i honestly.
KailaTime2 votesRemoving ranged from top is like saying that Kat mid is annoying, so delete her. That's just ridiculous. Just like a Nunu can play a support role, or a Lulu and jungle. We all have the freedom to choose whomever the hell we would like to and choose which lane to go into (with TB). Suck it up, get better at laning against them or adapt and choose ranged champs for yourself.
BlackRaven2 votesRemoving ranged from top is like saying that Kat mid is annoying, so delete her. That's just ridiculous. Just like a Nunu can play a support role, or a Lulu and jungle. We all have the freedom to choose whomever the hell we would like to and choose which lane to go into (with TB). Suck it up, get better at laning against them or adapt and choose ranged champs for yourself.
either give melees a better way to deal with ranged top or remove them. its plain and simple. and what ur saying is i should play ap lee adc because i can choose where i go and its my choice.
KailaTime1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Lee Sin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUlXp6Ka,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2015-01-02T02:00:32.454+0000)
either give melees a better way to deal with ranged top or remove them. its plain and simple. and what ur saying is i should play ap lee adc because i can choose where i go and its my choice.
Sure if you'd really like to go for it. They can't "block" champs from lanes. That will just never happen and is a ludicrous idea. Lol, can you imagine going into Teambuilder and selecting MF, top lane, and the game saying, "I'm sorry, she is somewhat ranged, you must pick another lane."
No, because it's silly.
AccountaBilabudy2 votesI'm starting to think the melee/bruisers should just go bot with the support and the adcs/ranged can 1v1 top lane.
BlackRaven2 votesI'm starting to think the melee/bruisers should just go bot with the support and the adcs/ranged can 1v1 top lane.
nah im thinking a new report option should be for melees. "picking a melee champ in a ranged game". im thinking this is going to be legit soon.
BlackRaven2 votesnow i get to play vs an ap annie top. xD xD :) :) cant wait to get raped. xD love melees xD :) :)
astralwit1 votesAre you implying ranged champs. don't require skill in their matchups? I'd argue they need a lot more actually.
BlackRaven3 votesAre you implying ranged champs. don't require skill in their matchups? I'd argue they need a lot more actually.
it means that its unfair that they can be brought top.
Rustling Bush2 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Lee Sin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUlXp6Ka,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-01-01T23:35:49.710+0000)
it means that its unfair that they can be brought top.
no its not, btw what melee champion are you playing? i
EndlessSorcerer2 votesLooking at his match history, he's been playing Irelia, Riven, and Zed; all champions who can handle ranged champions very well and benefit from having squishy targets.
BlackRaven2 votesLooking at his match history, he's been playing Irelia, Riven, and Zed a lot. It's kinda funny that he's complaining so much about ranged top laners since each of those champions can handle ranged champions very well and benefit from squishy targets.
they go top, they need to farm to be strong. i cant farm if there are ranged champs.
BlackRaven2 votesLooking at his match history, he's been playing Irelia, Riven, and Zed; all champions who can handle ranged champions very well and benefit from having squishy targets.
its still hard as hell. and on the chance that they are better, there is no chance of me being useful that game. which comes back to my point, remove ranged champs from top lane and give melees a chance.
Bears Dont Care1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Lee Sin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUlXp6Ka,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2015-01-02T00:11:47.879+0000)
its still hard as hell. and on the chance that they are better, there is no chance of me being useful that game. which comes back to my point, remove ranged champs from top lane and give melees a chance.
Doubtful, considering they nerfed the damage on Rek'sai recently, I believe the philosophy is "If you are mostly melee and have any utility, you're not going to be allowed to deal damage. If you have no utility, you're allowed to do damage, but a ranged ADC will always be better."
asktiks1 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Lee Sin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUlXp6Ka,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2015-01-02T00:11:47.879+0000)
its still hard as hell. and on the chance that they are better, there is no chance of me being useful that game. which comes back to my point, remove ranged champs from top lane and give melees a chance.
so....you want riot to implement some sort of invisible fucking wall that prevents anyone who picked a ranged champ from even walking to top?
wtf are you expecting here really? for every ranged in the game to get banned from champ select whenever you pick a melee to play top? how exactly would that work?
think before you type bro.
either get with the program , or play those bruisers jungle and get the best of both worlds, you don't get harassed pushed in lane, and you get to display all your skill with those ganks and their setups .... really I get it , trying to mid nowadays as a mage is an exercise in frustration but trust me it goes both ways...
don't believe me? take one of those ranged champs , get ganked once and see how your game goes from there on if they got so much advantage as you say
my advice?? look at scorescreen at game start, you can usually guess pretty well if youre gonna get ranged top, if they do, get a gold item like supports do, let the ranged push and farm farm farm , out cs him and have your jungler gank a few times, there now you proceeed to dive and delete them over and over again for the rest of the game
rule of life for everything in this world...adapt or die
BlackRaven2 votesso....you want riot to implement some sort of invisible fucking wall that prevents anyone who picked a ranged champ from even walking to top?
wtf are you expecting here really? for every ranged in the game to get banned from champ select whenever you pick a melee to play top? how exactly would that work?
think before you type bro.
either get with the program , or play those bruisers jungle and get the best of both worlds, you don't get harassed pushed in lane, and you get to display all your skill with those ganks and their setups .... really I get it , trying to mid nowadays as a mage is an exercise in frustration but trust me it goes both ways...
don't believe me? take one of those ranged champs , get ganked once and see how your game goes from there on if they got so much advantage as you say
my advice?? look at scorescreen at game start, you can usually guess pretty well if youre gonna get ranged top, if they do, get a gold item like supports do, let the ranged push and farm farm farm , out cs him and have your jungler gank a few times, there now you proceeed to dive and delete them over and over again for the rest of the game
rule of life for everything in this world...adapt or die
it silly that the only people who can compete with ranged are renek irelia and gnar.
karruck1 votesoh god...here we go again.Now for the record I believe it really comes down to play style and your build not your champ,lets face it we have all seen unlikely champs dominate games.I personally watched a sona dominate top lane and made it look easy,all this whining and griping about what champ or type of champ is absolutely absurd.Game play changes constantly now with all the ADC hvy dmg dealers up top yes ranged is the way to counter them,apparently it works well and you must have thought you were dominant top lane now realize how wrong you were.Please know this ranged has to keep you at range do dmg anticipate ganks and press the lane all at the same time ,it takes alot of skill and trial and error to get the build and system down so show a bit of respect and quit crying about it.
BlackRaven2 votesoh god...here we go again.Now for the record I believe it really comes down to play style and your build not your champ,lets face it we have all seen unlikely champs dominate games.I personally watched a sona dominate top lane and made it look easy,all this whining and griping about what champ or type of champ is absolutely absurd.Game play changes constantly now with all the ADC hvy dmg dealers up top yes ranged is the way to counter them,apparently it works well and you must have thought you were dominant top lane now realize how wrong you were.Please know this ranged has to keep you at range do dmg anticipate ganks and press the lane all at the same time ,it takes alot of skill and trial and error to get the build and system down so show a bit of respect and quit crying about it.
dominant? we were forced out of other lanes because adcs came up as a meta. and now you want to bring adcs top and you think this is fair?
karruck1 votesagain the game constantly evloves...you must change as it does or you get left behind,right now this is an ADC dominated game,does it need balancing ...yes it does until then adapt or be left behind.I never said what is fair and what is not opinons are different everywhere you ask the fact is they change aspects of the game every patch and we as players have to adjust how we play to make those changes work.Now go forth and adapt.
BlackRaven2 votesagain the game constantly evloves...you must change as it does or you get left behind,right now this is an ADC dominated game,does it need balancing ...yes it does until then adapt or be left behind.I never said what is fair and what is not opinons are different everywhere you ask the fact is they change aspects of the game every patch and we as players have to adjust how we play to make those changes work.Now go forth and adapt.
adapt to what? melees being erased off the game? yea just adapt. hey you play riven? not anymore. should just refund because hey, play quinn top now. hey do you play darius? the fuck kind of stupid mistake are you? play gnar only you idiot . JOLLY
Der Lindwurm1 votesOr play an assassin topside.
Cindikle1 votesLooks like you're winning those games though. Always with a positive KDA, even when you lose.
It may be annoying. But I don't think it's working for them.
That being said. It is still annoying.
Sir ArmaMalum1 votesbalance wise this is always an issue with fighters, and by extension top-lane. If fighters are tuned enough to where this isn't a possibility, then they'd be the pain point for others. Keep in mind as well that metas and trends tend to develop differently across skill ranges. While I agree with you that ranged champions top lane are becoming more popular in general that shift in the meta shakes games up less and less as you move up.
Also, the best counter strategy to a ranged champion top lane against a fighter is for he fighter to let the ranged champion push and let their jungler to close the gap for them. And with the new jungle items this is actually a bit easier for the jungler. But this also means it requires a bit of teamwork and coordination. Something that solo q games can be sorely lacking a lot of the times.
Kowe The Ewok1 votesI just played top. I was Malphite and I beat up a Plat IV Gnar. (6/1 vs 1/6) (Plat IV isn't an impressive Elo, but it indicates that the player wasn't inexperienced)
Who cares about auto attack range? There are so many strong meele champions who can beat up "ranged" champions... http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/1902482774/22014328?tab=overview
stealthfox941 votesNot every melee champ gets stomped by every ranged champ in lane. Irelia, Fiora, Pantheon, Yasuo, and Maokai are all capable of winning matchups against ranged top laners.
Centuros1 votesThe meta is changing, and people are complaining. I thought people were BORED with the current meta?
BlackRaven2 votesThe meta is changing, and people are complaining. I thought people were BORED with the current meta?
the only people that were bored were the bruisers themselves. months of darius mains complaining about how shit their champ is hasnt done anything so they wanted a change. this change only helps ranged mains even more. melees are continuously getting the dick
AlienPrimate1 votesA lot of melee's can crush ranged top laners.
Escheton1 votesDo you even lift armor, brah?
I have found that seeing ranged champions are generally designed to scale with items well but have low bases, simply grabbing extra armor on your runepage and engaging a lot early works wonders. You can easily outtrade them, if you go for more than just the +9 armor yellows. And don't play too far back afraid to just get poked. You need to go for those aggressive engages. They have no burst if you have some defense.