And reintroduce him as a sustained damage carry. His assasin playstyle is realy unfit for him and it already drowe you to cutting like half of what was his kit at release. And all of this was to preserwe him as a guy who kills you in one second ... not to mention that you are knocked up for all this time.
His kit allows him to have a realy interesting and health playstyle, why is it killed on behalf of q ult q to kill
Sire Hippington2 votesTotally agree, his kit could be incredible fun and healthy, useing your mobillity to survive, not only by dodging stuff but also building up the shield, landing the Qs to get the kockup for the ult, which fits his 'way of the wandere' theme perfectly. Building up E and Q stacks also gives him a kinda geathering storm feeling which fits greatly. The only thing that doesn't fit is the crit for insta killing squishys.
Just revert most off his nerfs, maybe keep the base health nerf to put more focus on the shield, and remove the crit from passive and Q. Now he's a utillity bruiser, haveing still some good constant dps, but mostly alot mobillity+low cd aoe knockups and the windwall.
Arsames1 votesNews flash: He isn't an assassin, he is a fighter. Gitgud or stay low el0 QQ'r.
Knight SoIaire 5 votesHe was meant to be a fighter
But news flash: he is played as an assasin ... and riot ballances him to not be able to do anything else but kill people in seconds
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T14:48:15.512+0000)
He was meant to be a fighter
But news flash: he is played as an assasin ... and riot ballances him to not be able to do anything else but kill people in seconds
He doesn't kill people in seconds, you are low el0 QQ'r, he is a fighter, he doesn't have the tools Assassins have, gitgud or stay low el0 QQ'r.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesdunno but when i play him people die before they fall down just saying ... i dont know how you play him git gud cause you cant even kill a person as yasuo
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T14:56:29.384+0000)
dunno but when i play him people die before they fall down just saying ... i dont know how you play him git gud cause you cant even kill a person as yasuo
http://eune.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=Hagane%20No%20Arashi
You are plat 5 l0w el0 player with 0 league points, you haven't played Yasuo once in ranked this season, you are just speaking nonsense. Keep lying and crying, see if that helps you.
Knight SoIaire 1 voteswho says i played him this season
for your information i have 63 ranked games in this season total
and 75 ranked games with yasuo last season
not to mentoin an occasional normal
well speak what you want but i aint going to reply any more ... i looked at your post history every post consists of calling people noobs (should get banned with that attitude)
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T16:24:18.896+0000)
who says i played him this season
for your information i have 63 ranked games in this season total
and 75 ranked games with yasuo last season
not to mentoin an occasional normal
well speak what you want but i aint going to reply any more ... i looked at your post history every post consists of calling people noobs (should get banned with that attitude)
So your opinion is oudated and irrelevant, nice, no need to waste more time on this thread, you admitted you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the CURRENT YASUO.
Sire Hippington2 voteshigh mobillity, high burst, squishy...souds like an assasin to me...
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Pavoni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2015-06-08T15:15:29.698+0000)
high mobillity, high burst, squishy...souds like an assasin to me...
First of all, Yasuo doesn't have high mobility or high burst. He has high sustained damage. An Assassin needs MOBILITY AND BURST ON DEMAND, Yasuo doesn't have either.
http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Don+Pavoni
Keep playing your custom games and staying unranked, instead of pretending to know what you are talking about.
Sire Hippington1 votesIf your teamcomp has a knockup on demand, he he will have long ranged mobillity on demand, and even without, his E is quite potent if used right. And with SS+IE, you rarly will need more than 2-3 AAs, 2Qs and your R for an squishy, which needs about 2sec, from which the target is atleast 1.5 cced. I would call that burst.
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Pavoni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T15:52:17.300+0000)
If your teamcomp has a knockup on demand, he he will have long ranged mobillity on demand, and even without, his E is quite potent if used right. And with SS+IE, you rarly will need more than 2-3 AAs, 2Qs and your R for an squishy, shich needs about 2sec, from which the target is atleast 1.5 cced. I would call that burst.
"IF"
When you say "IF", then the requirement of "ON DEMAND" is no longer ON DEMAND. His E is trash WITHOUT minion waves.
Yasuo doesn't have on demand mobility nor burst, don't pretend to he has. He needs certain conditions before he can utilize his kit, which makes him a fighter, not an Assassin. I don't need minion waves or knock ups when I play an actual Assassin like Zed/Talon, I can engage when I want.
Sire Hippington1 votesomg, you actually have to care for the teamcomp with your champion... Not that it's all to hard to charge up the Q and land the knockup yourself. Many assasins have to land a skillshot for their assasitnation combo. if you can't totally faceroll to assasinate someone, your suddenly not an assasin or what.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-06-08T14:48:15.512+0000)
He was meant to be a fighter
But news flash: he is played as an assasin ... and riot ballances him to not be able to do anything else but kill people in seconds
same as fiora. at least shes looking at a rework though. i just hope it makes her more into a mobile melee carry like yasuo, like guinsoo planned, and not more into an assassin.
Master Yi is actually an Assassin because he has on demand mobility and burst damage. Yasuo was a fighter from release and is a fighter now, he doesn't have mobility on demand or burst on demand.
yi is the definition of a melee adc. i think hes tagged as assassin, but thats not quite right. if played correctly, he can keep himself going and auto attacking by dodging abilities with alpha strike through an entire fight.
though this playstile requires an incredible amount of mechanical skill and reaction. its easier to play him as a cleanup assassin who goes in and finishes people off after most of the fight already happened.
yasuo is a different approach. even though i havent played the champion much, its one i quite like. though i agree, they could shift the focus a little more to his shield sustain, and off the dependency to burst people like a caster.
but one way or the other, all melee adc deal crazy amounts of damage to squishies by lategame. its not different to ranged adc in that regard, where a jinx rocket can chunk a squishy for half of its health if it crits.
Knight SoIaire 2 votessame as fiora. at least shes looking at a rework though. i just hope it makes her more into a mobile melee carry like yasuo, like guinsoo planned, and not more into an assassin.
main reason i look up to that rework hoping something great will come off it
yasuo is a different approach. even though i havent played the champion much, its one i quite like. though i agree, they could shift the focus a little more to his shield sustain, and off the dependency to burst people like a caster.
thats something i think he should get
and at the same time some smoothiing on his damage curve he can explode realy hard becoming a guy who goes into enemy base alone and goes out with a penta on his back
and i think that most of his nerfs were aimed at making him work for that harder and harder
Orbv1 votesIIRC His ultimate is actually a suspension. You can QSS it to remove the additional CC. Oddly this doesn't work like Vi's which you assume would.
KazaLyn Shao1 votesYou can't have sustained damage melees in LoL that aren't bruisers with CC. Melee carries get killed too easily, as people just CC them and nuke them in 2 seconds. That's why Master Yi is played as an assassin now as well. If you can't kill someone in 1 second, you'll die the next second. Melee carries have it rough in LoL.
Arsames1 votes[{quoted}](name=KazaLyn Shao,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUUhqey3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-06-08T15:25:54.023+0000)
You can't have sustained damage melees in LoL that aren't bruisers with CC. Melee carries get killed too easily, as people just CC them and nuke them in 2 seconds. That's why Master Yi is played as an assassin now as well. If you can't kill someone in 1 second, you'll die the next second. Melee carries have it rough in LoL.
Master Yi is actually an Assassin because he has on demand mobility and burst damage. Yasuo was a fighter from release and is a fighter now, he doesn't have mobility on demand or burst on demand.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesyasuo was designed to be one, the first one who has tools to adress the problems of a meele carry
his shield had to serwe 2 purposes one was to block ranged harras early second was to block the burst attempts ensuring that he gets to survive in the teamfight
his infinite dash was to make him able to catch up to people his ult to make him catch up to rangeds his windwall to nulify the adwantage ranged champions have ower him (this was actualy meant to look a tad diferent but ewolwed as an utility skill, he was meant to like cut bullets in midair ... or something close to that feeling) his arpen to make him able to churn tanks easier (he trades the safety of a ranged champ for offensive power )
anyway he has the tools, but his ballance pushed him somewhere else
simple example would be elise first many played her as a mage then nerfs came and people used her as a tank becuase she still possesed some good base damage and realy good utility ballance dictates that people can do with the champion, yasuo was forced to be an assasin, what is left is what needs to work
Akali is SO HOT1 votesThat wouldn't be good at all. Melee sustained damage carries can't really exist in this game unless they are tanky Bruisers like Irelia or Jax and even then they still have more assassin like damage than sustained damage. If Yasuo was reworked into a melee sustained damage carry his kit would have to look completely different for that to even begin to work. That's why you don't see any of the melee carries played as sustained damage but rather high burst.
If these guys all had sustained damage rather than high burst they would completely suck. They rely on taking you down quickly so they can kill people in teamfights. If yasuo couldn't kill you fast enough he would be useless and die. If yi had sustained damage rather than high burst he would be useless.
Also, Yasuo generally has low burst compared to other Assassins unless he's really ahead and he actually is sorta a sustained damage type of Assassin. If you look at this video you can see that most of the time I don't kill people right away like Fiora, Yi, Tryndamere, etc. would
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk5sfUIx8NM
Edit: I've played a ton of games with him and I speak from experience. If you don't believe me play 10 or 15 games with him.
Knight SoIaire 4 votesMelee sustained damage carries can't really exist in this game unless they are tanky Bruisers like Irelia or Jax and even then they still have more assassin like damage than sustained damage.
yasuo was designed to break that
his primary concept was to be a meele adc
Edit: I've played a ton of games with him and I speak from experience. If you don't believe me play 10 or 15 games with him.
i had like 60 rankeds last season
i think that the tools he is provided are able to actualy sustain him as the champion he was intended to be ... but the direction of numerical balance pushes him to rely on his insane damage ower anything else ... this he becomes an assasin
BluePolarizer1 votesYi has no burst without crit. It is his sustained damage that makes him scary, not his burst. I have 300+ games on Yi over 2 seasons.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesBurst > Sustain. Hp bars in this game are pathetic...