It's not a mana cost on his Q reduced by 20 and +4 damage on ratatatat at lvl 3 that will make him playable. His early game is shit and this reason will stop player from playing him because 
are hyper carries without a bad early game.
A Miss Fortune14 votesThe only reason to actually pick him over Vayne, Jinx, Tristana, or Kog'Maw, who are all late game hypercarry ADCs that blow everyone up, is because Twitch's teamfighting can POTENTIALLY be more rewarding for the most part.
I think giving him 0 > 2 > 4 more damage on his ultimate won't solve anything or lowering his mana costs from his Ambush. Both his Q and Ult are completely fine.
It's his passive and W that are both extremely useless in most cases. Late game at max rank, with full stacks on a target, with the full duration, they take a mediocre 216 true damage. That won't even leave a dent in tanks with over 3,000 health and 100 or so armor to mitigate his auto attacks. And his W has relatively no uses. It has a 25% slow for most of the game which won't do much, it doesn't do damage and only applies 2 stacks of his passive, so aside from ambushing people or wave clear It's extremely useless, oh and not to mention Twitch's E is just a watered down Kalista rend.
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The only reason to actually pick him over Vayne, Jinx, Tristana, or Kog'Maw, who are all late game hypercarry ADCs that blow everyone up, is because Twitch's teamfighting can POTENTIALLY be more rewarding for the most part.
I think giving him 0 > 2 > 4 more damage on his ultimate won't solve anything or lowering his mana costs from his Ambush. Both his Q and Ult are completely fine.
It's his passive and W that are both extremely useless in most cases. Late game at max rank, with full stacks on a target, with the full duration, they take a mediocre 216 true damage. That won't even leave a dent in tanks with over 3,000 health and 100 or so armor to mitigate his auto attacks. And his W has relatively no uses. It has a 25% slow for most of the game which won't do much, it doesn't do damage and only applies 2 stacks of his passive, so aside from ambushing people or wave clear It's extremely useless, oh and not to mention Twitch's E is just a watered down Kalista rend.
exactly, twitch slow is also extremely low compared to jinx/ashe . his passive needs a numericable buff or add some utility like enemies poisoned are slow. Then you can give his W a much more interresting buff.
or move his passive to his E like kalista
A Miss Fortune9 votesPassive: Useless, mediocre damage, can be overbearing if he's fed W: Useless, just throw it on minions so you don't have to auto attack something 6 times to be relevant with your passive E: hur dur lets give kalista 60% AD ratios and infinite stacks on hers and unlimited dashes, and a point and click slow
But you know what, we'll remove 20 mana off his Q and give him exactly 0 more damage on his ultimate at level 6.
Matezoide1 votesI think thats why people say Twitch is fine. They look at his ult and instantly go "STFU HE CAN HIT ALL 5 ENEMIES AT ONCE!!!!"
His potential power is over bearing, but just reaching that point in the game, and actually getting into this kind of situation is basically impossible.
It is also completely absurd that Kalista's Rend is strictly better than Twitch's Passive + Expunge while having so many other advantages over him.
junglerboy161 votesmeanwhile Jinx gets built in AoE and Kalista's kit is inherently amazing with Runaan's giving her AoE as well.
Only Play Darius3 votesTwitch doesn't become a menace until he gets 5 and a half completed items. He is the worst ADC to play when behind so if he falls behind it can take over 30 minutes for him to finally hit his powerspike.
There just isn't much of a reason to pick him now because 
seems to do everything twitch does, but better.
AmazingGoat3 votesIt's like you're completely missing the fact that his stealth can be used in the mid game to make plays. This is the actual reason to play Twitch, and the reason why he is a super high skill cap champion.
A Miss Fortune3 votes
UltraSceptile5 votes4 AD? LOL
I can see the new video now, 4 AD???? 4 AD?????????????!!!!!!
What a joke lmfao.
Lugg3 votesI think the activation time on Ambush should depend on his health. If he is at 25% health or less, it should be instant. That gives him some safety in laning phase. To counter the huge buff this would be, lower the stealth time to 3-5 seconds and maybe up the MS bonus so he can still use it late game to set up fights.
Keevalroy3 votesSpray and Pray doesn't need help, Ambush and Expunge do.
Earl Eulrich2 votesjust wait for worlds, twitch doesn´t even need the buff.
ShadyWolfe2 votesIt's not a mana cost on his Q reduced by 20 and +4 damage on ratatatat at lvl 3 that will make him playable. His early game is shit and this reason will stop player from playing him because
I would love more meaningful buffs for 
too but Vayne does not have a good early game she is pretty bad early.
Edt: I meant 
not
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesI would love more meaningful buffs for
not as bad as people pretend
Urgle2 votesTwitch is the Red Headed Bastard Step-Child Riot never wanted. Thats why he'll never get any positive attention, and if he does get attention it'll be to beat the living shit out of him. (nerfs) I mean, that's how its seems to me.
Voidgolem1 votessatiates my OCD.
gaby1best1 votesVayne is a hyper carry without a bad early game.
Wut.
Messaiga6 votesIts true because the lane bullies she struggled versus got nerfed. This allows her weaknesses to be less relevant and lets her more easily reach BORK at which point she's as strong as everyone else.
gaby1best1 votes
got a buff a few patches ago.
But of course, the support matters more when it comes to who wins the lane.
CasterGilgamesh1 votescait is good against her but late game she falls off a bit if you don't smash vayne completely out of lane
Erockandroll2 votesWut.
Mostly it's the fact that she can rush BotRK. You lose you ability to be chunked down in the extended trade, and it's active helps her with her already good chase potential.
Champion Skin2 votesVayne is actually really good from level 3 if she is able to land a condemn and get the stun
Matezoide2 votesWut.
Vayne's early is weak, however...
She has a mobility spell on a low CD and anti-engagement tool. Those two skills makes her early game fairly safe to all-ins. This helps making it up and allows her to at least survive bad match ups. She can also cheese early with a well placed Stun and her passive allows her to chase enemies.
They also nerfed champions that are strong against her and severely buffed Blade of the Ruined King (Both the passive and build path).
Compare her early safety to Twitch, for example. Not only is she safer, her first item power-spike is huge compared to the poor rat.
Old Man Teeto1 votesTwitch excels against squishy teams where he can kill lots of people with AoE pierce if they dare group up. Additionally, he almost required a lane swap or to be against a really poor early game duo, which made him predictable.
Jefftiffy1 votesThe only reason Vayne is so strong right now is because of all the changes to BotRK. It now does more on hit damage instead of stealing more and it has longer range and has a better build path. Ofc she is going to thrive off that.
Now the real solution is buffing Caitlyn, MF, and Corki to help keep her shut out a bit longer. As it is right now Caitlyn used to be a hard counter, but Botrk changes really eroded that counter by making it harder to get the early lead (not that she doesn't counter he anymore).
Jinx has a much more exploitable late game with an experienced team than Vayne mostly due to her lack of mobility against smart people and having little to protect herself. A slow or hard CC can mean death for her in a team fight. I suspect her only necessary nerf is the one that I have been pushing for her since her release. Removing the AoE crit on her rockets. Critting on the main target is fine. But don't let an ADC crit an entire team with a single AA.
Krys Star1 votesI still never really understood why they hit his passive so hard. It's like they nerfed Twitch because players were too stupid to avoid letting him build his passive up on a target, or couldn't finish Twitch off on time before he could get max benefit from it.
galdamesh2 votesthe biggest problem for me with his passive expunge nerf is kalista gets a better version in everyway except the dot.
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I still never really understood why they hit his passive so hard. It's like they nerfed Twitch because players were too stupid to avoid letting him build his passive up on a target, or couldn't finish Twitch off on time before he could get max benefit from it.
they nerfed his passive to be less good at early game
Pretty Dhizi1 votesBring back his ability to go invisible without having to wait 6 fucking seconds again, maybe then he'll be able to be viable again.
Seriously. Why they ever decided to destroy his one ability which allowed him to escape was beyond me.
KONO RUBICK DA2 votesBring back his ability to go invisible without having to wait 6 fucking seconds again, maybe then he'll be able to be viable again.
Seriously. Why they ever decided to destroy his one ability which allowed him to escape was beyond me.
people were crying about a "free escape" meanwhile 3 seconds was long enough to kill him.
IcyPepper3 votesFree escape? What part of the entire spell is "free?"
Pretty Dhizi2 votespeople were crying about a "free escape" meanwhile 3 seconds was long enough to kill him.
Yup. It was utterly stupid how they gutted him by making him unable to run after being hit. It was his ONE escape tool, and they destroyed it. Now it can only be used to engage, or dissengage from a range of 1500 or farther away, where you can actually outrun most champions (except nocturne).
TotalJerk1 votesEverything in Twitch's kit that could stand to be buffed, and you choose the one thing that should certainly not be fucked with.
TotalJerk1 votesYou know, people said the exact same thing when the Evelynn and Elise buffs hit the PBE.
KONO RUBICK DA1 votesYou know, people said the exact same thing when the Evelynn and Elise buffs hit the PBE.
elise buffs? only retards said that a 1.6 sec stun at lvl 1 + magic damage+ bug correction wasn't a good buff to elise
Noam Braumsky1 votesSomething to realize. If Twitch were released at this time, his passive would be on his E and he would probably have a new one with two parts to it.
McSatan1 votesHow about make it so getting hit by a minion doesn't delay stealth by 6 seconds?
