Riot wants mages to roleplay as DoTA champions

FrostQueensPlane·4/17/2018, 10:33:00 PM·62 votes·15,517 views

They want mages to be gated by mana the entire game. But only mages, because

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LVL99 Helper TK4/17/2018, 10:36:43 PM44 votes

because ADC hehe xD

Epìphany4/18/2018, 12:32:50 AM35 votes

because Meddler is adc main.

Bioness4/17/2018, 10:39:16 PM20 votes

DotA "Heroes" not Champions.

They want mages to be gated by mana the entire game. But only mages, because a badass sword/gun beats some whimpy spells any day.

Your Demon4/18/2018, 1:14:18 AM18 votes

because mages kill their sweet adcs

was expecting a imba post about dota , dota is actually pretty balanced

Wild Geese4/18/2018, 12:49:20 AM8 votes

OK i get what you're saying, except If any mage was as strong as Invoker I don't think this game would last a month. [sg-miss-fortune]

Sun Wu Ryuumoku4/18/2018, 1:10:10 AM5 votes

i thinks its great, and the good path to take.

Personnaly when i play MonkeyKing Talon or even Taliyah (a bit less since new itemization) i need to manage manage my mana. its a skill every players should developp...

Some will talk about adc... but its a different topic (and they will be adressed too )

Risen294/18/2018, 1:32:47 AM5 votes

It's not much of a strategy game without limited resources. You don't have to make smart decisions about when and where to use your abilities, you just spam them whenever they are up.

This game was better back when running out of mana was a real concern for every champion.

Killer of Night94/18/2018, 1:40:50 AM4 votes

The moment when you see a mana change for mana gating the mage then you remember that one item still exhist. item 3042 <------- Tell me who's AD champ is mana gated anymore? Even Ezreal could get a item 3508 if the muramasa effect wouldn't sinergy with his Q.. Even item 3508 it's not used for what it should be (Remember the old version of essence reaver? AD + Lifesteal and a mana effect? Well noone needed that because noone adc was mana gating and ezreal still builded tear) and right now it's build only for Critical stat+CDR. But sure mage aren't suppose to use spell on wawe so let's give to doran ring +5 dmg on hit. Result -> Ahri Kayle They're rewarded because they got a good attack speed base so they can actually use that. Annie Karthus They has the lowest attack speed i've ever seen and/or the lowest projectile for a mage. Ziggs Velkoz Who even need an artillery that can farm easy the wawe? Let's go all in because i need to auto the Cannon minion that give 60 gold because i had no mana, oh yeah don't forget that enemy zed has ult up so let's go on his range so he can ult me.

T4underbolt4/18/2018, 2:00:09 PM2 votes

In my opinion every class should have mana issues and you should be having a heavy mana build to actually have sustain source of mana. Meanwhile most of the champs cna buy merely one mana item that gives some mana and be fine. And im not talking about mages only.

SenorBobbers4/18/2018, 2:48:07 PM2 votes

Except Dota heroes at least have items with mana regen (lol has what? 5? and all of them are specifically for supports) and ways to recover mana (soul ring, arcane boots).

Don Lupus4/18/2018, 7:52:54 AM2 votes

It's annoying how they do it in such a one-sided way. They want mages to be totally under control, gated by mana and whatsoever. But they STILL don't feel like actually targeting ADCs. They still feel it's fair to have champs like Zed, Katarina, Riven or Yasuo not having mana at all.

Lordk0z4/18/2018, 5:35:58 AM2 votes

So when do we get the ability that grants an invincible morgana shield for 10 seconds and the Point and Click Bouncing Cask that stuns every hit and can bounce between two champs to permastun them?

Disclaimer: Those are not ultimates. Those are basic abilities that have a CD of 18 and 14 seconds respectively.

I am not joking.

Ariel the Cruel4/18/2018, 6:02:13 AM2 votes

They want mages to be gated by mana the entire game. But only mages, because . . .

#. . .WHERE'S FENMORE!?

Wolfeur4/18/2018, 8:16:45 AM1 votes

Because mana should be a balance point for mages. As long as mages don't have mana problem, then can't deal more damage. If you want your mages to be more powerful (which the boards seem to be all for), then they need a weakness with that.

Since ADC are the durable champions, those who can fight for very long thanks to manaless AA, mages need mana-gating in order to legitimately overpower ADC in short fights.

VelvetCrotch4/18/2018, 12:35:00 PM1 votes

because unlike other heroes mages have over the board the best waveclear. some of them - like veigar - scale too much into lategame, which already neded to be nerfed.

and i, personally, dislike champs who doesnt use ANY resource at all -> like Riven, Mundo, Garen etc.