Is Alistar top a thing? Rather does it work at all or is it at the least fun?

AMADEUSdotEXE··2 votes·1,766 views

Curious is all, I ran into about 3 yesterday consecutively in team builder. Idk how but the one that i had on my team won lane. Is it a thing? does it work? I'm curious is all, I decided to try it because I'm bored and im currently looking for a game in Teambuilder. It just sounded like it might be a fun new thing to try.

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Alakalzam2 votes

I stumbled across this today Alistar Guide. It's a guide written by a Diamond player for playing Alistar Support, AP Assassin, AP Bruiser, or AD Bruiser. Whether the builds are viable, I can't say. I've never tried it and I didn't see win rates for Alistar on champion.gg for anything other than support (which is where 85% of people play him).

Dediguise2 votes

He has shit last hitting potential high mana costs, 0 item synergy and little to know recognizable powerspikes(besides level 2 cc which you need a partner to capitalize on). You also auto lose if your other lanes feed.

Is he terrible, no, but TahmKench is strictly better at solo laning

AMADEUSdotEXE1 votes

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He has shit last hitting potential high mana costs, 0 item synergy and little to know recognizable powerspikes(besides level 2 cc which you need a partner to capitalize on). You also auto lose if your other lanes feed.

Is he terrible, no, but TahmKench is strictly better at solo laning

I 2 shotted a fed trist mid game and i was 0/4 ;l js lol but yeah it wasnt very good

MohawkBird1 votes

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IcyPepper1 votes

I thought he was nerfed because of Alistar jungle?

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

IIRC, he was nerfed for Alistar jungle during Season 2 and he was nerfed for Alistar top in Season 4.

Alistar jungler received nerfs to hsi base damages and Trample to weaken his ability to clear jungle camps.

Alistar top received nerfs by removing his ability to AA a target who was just knocked away by Headbutt (meaning you could no longer proc Statikk Shiv and Spellblade to harass in lane).

IcyPepper1 votes

I guess I can understand the top nerfs...

... but are the reasons for his jungle nerfs in Season 2 still applicable in the current game state?

SaltyKracka1 votes

They'd have to buff a champion they already consider fairly strong if they wanted to revert them, so they don't.

IcyPepper1 votes

I'm sure they can buff one role without buffing another, at least for this guy specifically (not every champion can so).

Some champion abilities deal extra damage against monsters, so if they wanted him to jungle they could look into it. I mean, they buffed Lee Sin, and while he's not the best solo queue it's undeniable that he's a staple pro pick (but doesn't get treated like Azir, fortunately), so buffing Alistar's jungling ability without touching his support role (and keeping him out of the top lane, hopefully?) is a possibility. Maybe.

Eh.

PhantomGG1 votes

It use to be a legit thing until his offensive abilities got nerfed to oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3L3VqyHTWA

What it was able to do while a certain unspeakable item still existed.

Back in its prime it was even stronger then the video you see here.

Now it's just something you mess around with when bored in normals.

AMADEUSdotEXE1 votes

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It use to be a legit thing until his offensive abilities got nerfed to oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3L3VqyHTWA

What it was able to do while a certain unspeakable item still existed.

Back in its prime it was even stronger then the video you see here.

Now it's just something you mess around with when bored in normals.

HE ONESHOOTTED HER was tht when he was fed or was that just well farmed damage too ?

Zane Zephyr1 votes

It's kinda funny, but laning can suck if your opponent has some kind of harass since you don't have too much in terms of retaliation

Though I will say it is fucking hilarious if you get a ludens and delete someone with your headbutt

Stellafreyja1 votes

I was against one as Quinn a few days ago. Kept headbutting me away while I was trying to CS...I kept trying to poke, but I had to be careful of using my E because he'd probably use that knock-up as I rushed in.

Needless to say, it was annoying...

Blue Collar Bear1 votes

I'm an Alistar top main. I played him in my Diamond promotionals. It's good.

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