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RisenDarkKnight11 votes

And Riot wonders why there aren't enough support players, lol.

Good catch, OP.

Anonagon9 votes

The level 1-5 starting champions are a joke

They have Ryze, one of the most demanding champions to play in the game, as a starting champion

They need to reorganize the pricing structure of champions around difficulty instead of age, then just make the cheapest and easiest champions from each class free permanently.

RocketRelm2 votes

To be fair, Ryze 'used' to be in that category.

Anonagon1 votes

really only at the beginning of league's existence I get that they keep him there for legacy reasons but he's been a genuinely hard to play champion as long as I've been playing this game

Laxfan524 votes

I think blitz would be a good early player support because he is fairly easy to understand and is pretty helpful to a team.

dragon1xx3 votes

NO. JUST NO.

PlanetWarwick2 votes

Cri

AdellaideSkyhart3 votes

or singed. kappa

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Ayyyyyyyyyyyy

Athenes Lulu3 votes

The thing is supporting, like jungling, requires some prior knowledge of the game to even get started.

Though I won't mind throwing in Sona at all.

Aeszarck2 votes

Lux is a passable support, so if a player really wanted to support, he or she could go Lux.

However, I think the reason they made the new champion pool solo laners is because laning is the easiest thing to do. You don't need to buy a special item, you're allowed to kill minions, you do lots of damage, and the burden isn't on you as much to ward. I tried out Lissandra mid in my first game, and with my experience in Warcraft III AoS maps, I did all right. However, when I didn't get mid, my friend recommended support to me. I listed out all the free champions, and he said that I could go Lux. My first experience as support was extremely confusing. "Okay, so you buy the Spellthief's Edge and use the rest of your gold on Health Potions." "Okay," I replied. However, in the back of my mind I was thinking, "Wow, I would have never known to buy that if it weren't for him. Support sounds complicated already." I didn't even know that there were other support items; later, during my first game as support Galio (yep, I thought his kit sounded like a support kit), I bought a Spellthief's Edge instead of a Relic Shield because I thought that the Spellthief's Edge was the support item. "Okay, now come bot. You're going to help me leash for the jungler." Leash??? "Yeah, you just auto attack the Gromp until it's low, then you leave with me." I was completely lost. Why couldn't we all share the EXP? "The jungler needs level two, we don't. We can take minions in lane." I took his word for that. Then I asked him, "So Nathan, what do I do now?" "Just... uh, auto attack them and harass them with your E. That gives you gold." "Oh, I got Q."

"Stop attacking the minions! Supports don't take minions, Jeff. They get all the gold from their item." Jeez this role is complicated, I remember thinking. How would I have known to do any of this stuff without my friend? "Not even one?" "No, the ADC needs all the gold." "Can I attack the minions so that they're lower health for you? Also, what's ADC?" "No, that messes up my timing, and attack damage carry." "What if I do it by accident?" "It's okay, but try not to."

"Okay, so you know how I told you to auto attack the enemy? Don't go so far out to do that." "But then I have no other job. You told me not to kill minions, so I'm just sitting around doing nothing. I've got to attack them." "That's how you got yourself killed. You need to be safer. Remember, they have two people, and if you harass them when I'm getting cs, then I can't help you and they can kill you. You're also super squishy." I was even more confused. All I did was deal damage to the enemy, but I wasn't supposed to be dealing damage to the enemy all the time?

"You know, actually, when the minions come under tower, auto attack the ranged minions once if the tower is targeting them. I can't get the cs if you don't." ...what the heck was he talking about? "Actually don't worry about that, you'll learn in time."

"Okay, so how much gold do you have." "1350" "Get a Sightstone and upgrade your gold item." I look at the Sightstone's description and choose not to buy it. "It looks pretty crappy," I think.

Later, my friend tells me that the laning phase is over and we can roam. "So now what do I do?" "You just walk around with me and ward bushes. If you see an enemy, hit them with your spells." "Can I kill minions now?" "Only if there aren't any people nearby. They need the gold more than you."


I can't imagine learning support without the help of someone experienced. That game was so confusing, mostly because support is a bunch of concepts that I had never learned before. Not attacking or killing minions was weird, getting gold by attacking enemies was weird, warding was weird, and leashing was weird. Later, when I tried out Alistar, I learned I had to buy a Relic Shield, which was also really weird since I was so used to auto attacking enemies for gold. I think it's all right to encourage players to play laners in the early levels. Support is complicated, and players can learn it after they've gotten their bearings with the easiest role.

Champion Skin1 votes

Actually if both top laners and bot laners are beginners they probably aren't great at last hitting so item 3302 might not be a bad idea usually (though while it would give them more gold it is also the question about how well they would use that gold... since most new players as far as I have seen aren't great at using their gold and buying good items)

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

LOL funny, cuz you cant even lane properly or know how to do adc/support bot lane let alone jungle, gank, wave control anything else. just mash buttons and figure it out after lvl 5

Jon11741 votes

But would it not hurt to give someone the proper tools to mash buttons for the first 5 levels?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but that is just it you cant mash buttons properly at those levels hell most of ranked bronze players cant mash buttons properly

ManiacalCoyote1 votes

We can, but we don't mash them in the right order.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

at least you have a sense of humor... lol everyone takes shit too seriously...

BigBellBrute1 votes

Bots don't play genuine support or jungle so I would see no need for either level 1-5.

Kitty Clarissa1 votes

honestly they should put Janna and Soraka or Braum on the list since they dont have a higher skill floor and is far more forgiving when you mess up letting players enjoy the support role a bit. Ryze imho should be taken out since he became too mechancially intensive and be replaced with someone like Brand since he is not to hard to pick up and is really fun also can play as support.

Champion Skin1 votes

They could also possibly have Nautilus (pretty straight forward land your Q and then use your other abilities when you hit) and he is a pretty decent support because of all of his CC

Kilanost1 votes

Supports still exist? I thought that role was taken over by OP mages in need of nerfs.

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