Found out the hardway how Yi's ult actually works.

ApexInTheCircle·Apr 23, 2019·62 votes·17,583 views

I've been playing this game for fucking years my dudes. Years. And I had 0 idea this entire time that and 's passives have no effect on him while he is ulted. I just found this out last game when a teammate pointed it out to me while Yi ran through my 5k hp cho with and was completely unfazed in terms of attack speed. The only thing I could do was sell my frozen heart, pick up a rabbadons and hope that I could kill him before he killed me.

So I guess there literally is no way to stop Yi after he's ulted except to kill him before he wipes you out.

123 Comments

rtbf247626423Apr 23, 201965 votes

yi is too braindead he needs a rework

azazxerApr 23, 20197 votes

Stop, i hate this mentality, get better or don't ask for a rework, before he actually becomes a probelm

Haze97Apr 23, 20198 votes

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Luigi TortelliniApr 23, 201915 votes

Civilized discussion amongst the LoL community, exhibit A.

AseraanApr 23, 20191 votes

I KNOW RIGHT WHO NEEDS A ROADMAP WHEN ALL THE LINES WILL END IN A GO FK URSELF?

Cotten Eyed JoeApr 24, 20195 votes

You having a stroke mate?

Haze97Apr 24, 20191 votes

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AseraanApr 25, 20191 votes

AAHAHAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahah mice one.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

AseraanApr 25, 20191 votes

Still not nice tho.

GodlyBaneApr 23, 201910 votes

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yi is too braindead he needs a rework

Yi actually takes more thinking to play than riven and i know i sound fucking xrazy but you have to time your shit properly when you play yi, i dont even play that guy.

This however, stops applying when he is very ahead so i see where ypu come from

IllabetheApr 23, 20197 votes

There's a difference between thinking and complex combos and thinking and timing though. Yi isn't exactly hard. Once you learn to stand back and not be the initiator, but the finisher, games become immensely easier. Games where Yi loses, he generally thinks he's a tank and yolo's in.

As a finisher he's unstoppable, because every kill gives 7 seconds more to his ult. You may be competent enough to beat Yi, but your team usually isn't, which ends up leading to YOUR death, because you outplaying Yi for 7 Seconds made you vulnerable to his NEXT 7 seconds.

FioraWillCarryApr 23, 20194 votes

This is so true. Yi is actually a lot more difficult to make work than nearly everyone realizes. Yi is exceptionally good pre-30 and from Iron 4 to Silver 4. But from Silver 4 and upwards, he becomes quite difficult to use. He is still a monster but you can no longer just R and get multi-kills mindlessly like you could do pre-30 or low Bronze players. You actually have to think about what you're doing, same as if you were playing Riven or Fiora. You try that mindless right click shit in Silver and you'd just feed your ass off. It's not that Silver players are gods or anything, far from it. It's just that Yi has very easily exploitable weaknesses that even average players with moderate experience can use to their advantage consistently vs Yi. You still get games where you can R and mindlessly right click your way to victory in Silver and up but not consistently enough where you could just breeze your way through those elos. You will feed in a lot of those games if you don't think about what you're doing.

Well CauseApr 23, 20195 votes

Yes, you are crazy for comparing the least requiring skill champion with one of the most skill requiring champs

AseraanApr 23, 20191 votes

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Well CauseApr 24, 20193 votes

She isn't the most skill requiring but definitely on the top, it's known among all players that have a brain to understand that. Riven is just broken now and that's why so many players abuse her

AseraanApr 24, 20191 votes

I rly want to offend you somehow but i am still stuck up on this brain thingie, why is everyone trying to point it out that he is being smart for having one of those?

Okay i have made up my mind here is my counter cuz surely it's known among all palyers that have brain to understand that riven is by far nowhere even near requiring skill as much as ppl claim since she has nothing to go skillwise otherthan animation canceling provided you will not get an epilepsic stroke spaming her low cd skill overloaded whit moblity.

Well CauseApr 24, 20193 votes

This is what Spear of shojin does to her, every high elo player knows that riven requires A LOT of skill to learn and master

And if you're so sure that Riven doesn't require skill you can just play her and prove it yourself :)

Haze97Apr 24, 20191 votes

Don't need to think shit. Thinking is for those who don't build item 3231 to get out of that Lux's Q.

Don't worry, she'll be respawning while your cooldown refreshes.

GodlyBaneApr 27, 20191 votes

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Don't need to think shit. Thinking is for those who don't build to get out of that Lux's Q.

Don't worry, she'll be respawning while your cooldown refreshes.

thats kind of dumb considering the fact only bad yi's build that item if they dont know how to properly use yi's kit to function in teamfights. U have a QSS on ur Q, essentially, and when you dont use the Q properly or too early, there isnt a point and you die. A lot of yi players engage ganks with Q and either end up taking turret dmg, or die without any successful gank unless the person is below 25% hp. The propper way to gank with Yi or any big gap closer champion is to first walk up, without using your mobility, wait for them to flash, or get away, then use your mobility. You can use Yi's Q to dodge so much and outplay so well its unbelievable the amount of mechanics a right click champ has. I once outplayed an adc who was autoing me in my W when my Q had a 5 second cooldown. I waiting for my W to stack my passive, and waiting for my Q to go to 2 second cd (i was at 15% hp mind you) I then flash up to her, get my passive auto off, Q, then auto attack with E enabled. I dont know how much of this you understand but i hope you do.

ThingamajigApr 23, 201924 votes

You can't deal with his true damage but you can deal with his physical damage thats why the counter to vayne is armor instead of health you are going to resist more damage from vayne with high armor values than high health values ofcourse you need a middle ground so other champions don't melt you instead

and yes highlander immunes all kind of slows including Fear Charm and Poly this includes atk speed slows

CC is the best counter to YI and as cowsep throws fits every game Zhonya any way to make him stop playing or extend your life counters yi

Alistar alone can shut down an Yi completely A fiddle fear alone denies Yis full highlander

a long time ago i had an Yi OTP repeatedly against me like 3-4 games straight he smashed the first 2 games without an effort the next games i kept picking fiddle into him and saving my fear for him alone and he was completely useless

Meteora707Apr 23, 20194 votes

what kind of a yi doesn't Q alistar combo or QSS a fiddle fear?

ThingamajigApr 23, 20191 votes

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what kind of a yi doesn't Q alistar combo or QSS a fiddle fear?

if you go for ali combo on an yi you should be reported im sure you will buy qss right after your bloodrazor im sure that 1300 gold you spent to ignore fiddle fear will help you be able to kill anyone in the next 15 minutes and unless you are captain jack the fear will send you far enough away to get instantly blown up oh wait you are talking fiction

Meteora707Apr 23, 20195 votes

if you go for ali combo on an yi you should be reported

yes just sit next to your adc without using cds for the entire game

im sure you will buy qss right after your bloodrazor

yes because team fights happen at 10 min mark

im sure that 1300 gold you spent to ignore fiddle fear will help you be able to kill anyone in the next 15 minutes

oh I'm sure you don't since that would be too logical and possibly get you out of d4

oh wait you are talking fiction

yes surpassing a coma patient in reaction time sounds like fiction to you for sure.

LeetriApr 23, 20192 votes

Nothing quite like fearing an ulting Yi and seeing him run back across half the lane before the fear wears off.

SillaeApr 24, 20192 votes

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You can't deal with his true damage but you can deal with his physical damage thats why the counter to vayne is armor instead of health you are going to resist more damage from vayne with high armor values than high health values ofcourse you need a middle ground so other champions don't melt you instead

and yes highlander immunes all kind of slows including Fear Charm and Poly this includes atk speed slows

CC is the best counter to YI and as cowsep throws fits every game Zhonya any way to make him stop playing or extend your life counters yi

Alistar alone can shut down an Yi completely A fiddle fear alone denies Yis full highlander

a long time ago i had an Yi OTP repeatedly against me like 3-4 games straight he smashed the first 2 games without an effort the next games i kept picking fiddle into him and saving my fear for him alone and he was completely useless

"cc counters yi"

congrats you have cracked the code

crowd control is definitely the only thing that should counter a champ because crowd control is only effective on a small number of champs and yi isn't in his q for the majority of each of his fights

wait

Spicy RiceApr 24, 20194 votes

While cc is effective on everyone, it is not equally effective.

getting stunned as mundo for 2 secs isn't as disastrous as getting stunned as yi for 2 secs.

As for your statement that he is alpha striking to dodge your cc and damage, I'll give you this question.

Why aren't you just timing your cc to hit him right out of alpha? You know how long it takes, and you basically always know where he's gonna show up. Literally just count 1 sec in your head then throw cc at the first target of alpha.

ThingamajigApr 24, 20192 votes

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"cc counters yi"

congrats you have cracked the code

crowd control is definitely the only thing that should counter a champ because crowd control is only effective on a small number of champs and yi isn't in his q for the majority of each of his fights

wait

CC isn't an effective counter to tanks oh wait your perception of reality must be different than what reality is

SillaeApr 24, 20191 votes

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CC isn't an effective counter to tanks oh wait your perception of reality must be different than what reality is

weird

where did I say it wasnt effective against tanks

was it when I implied cc is effective against the majority of champions

are tanks the majority of champions

or are you twisting the argument to suit your needs

ThingamajigApr 24, 20192 votes

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weird

where did I say it wasnt effective against tanks

was it when I implied cc is effective against the majority of champions

are tanks the majority of champions

or are you twisting the argument to suit your needs

then your comment in the first place was completely unnecessary

Need Gold 4 TentApr 25, 20191 votes

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"cc counters yi"

congrats you have cracked the code

crowd control is definitely the only thing that should counter a champ because crowd control is only effective on a small number of champs and yi isn't in his q for the majority of each of his fights

wait

2 seconds of down time on a SIon who can't die in those 2 seconds anyway vs 2 seconds of down time on a squishy in the middle of the enemy team? Of course CC is a champ specific counter. Why do you think people don't say " CC the tank"?

SillaeApr 25, 20191 votes

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2 seconds of down time on a SIon who can't die in those 2 seconds anyway vs 2 seconds of down time on a squishy in the middle of the enemy team? Of course CC is a champ specific counter. Why do you think people don't say " CC the tank"?

First of all, you should CC the tank in certain situations and comps, so that argument falls flat.

Not only that, but you strawmanned my argument. I didn't say CC counters every champ (though, obviously, it does to an extent) I said it isn't groundbreaking that CC works, considering it is an effective way to make someone not be able to do what they want to do. If the only way to beat someone is to essentially make them go afk, then there's an issue.

Tryce MaxwellApr 25, 20191 votes

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You can't deal with his true damage but you can deal with his physical damage thats why the counter to vayne is armor instead of health you are going to resist more damage from vayne with high armor values than high health values ofcourse you need a middle ground so other champions don't melt you instead

and yes highlander immunes all kind of slows including Fear Charm and Poly this includes atk speed slows

CC is the best counter to YI and as cowsep throws fits every game Zhonya any way to make him stop playing or extend your life counters yi

Alistar alone can shut down an Yi completely A fiddle fear alone denies Yis full highlander

a long time ago i had an Yi OTP repeatedly against me like 3-4 games straight he smashed the first 2 games without an effort the next games i kept picking fiddle into him and saving my fear for him alone and he was completely useless

I had 560 armor as malphite and a vayne killed me in 9 autos with 2.5k true damage.

ThingamajigApr 25, 20191 votes

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I had 560 armor as malphite and a vayne killed me in 9 autos with 2.5k true damage.

9 autos is pretty long time frame squishies drop from 3 autos 9 autos is (if she already had full guinsoo stacked ) is 4 passive procs 14x4 56% of your health considering crits and % dmg she double hits with guinsoo thats about as much as you can hope for

When i pick malphite against vayne i go AP actually and just solo kill her every time if she flashes the R i just die but she can do that only once per 4 deaths so it's worth as long as it's not the game deciding fight

Z3SleeperApr 23, 201919 votes

They should really change this. AS slow items are literally the only possible defense you could build against Yi's mixed + true damage and yet even those items are negated.

There is quite literally no way at all to counter-build Yi right now.

VectrosApr 24, 20192 votes

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They should really change this. AS slow items are literally the only possible defense you could build against Yi's mixed + true damage and yet even those items are negated.

There is quite literally no way at all to counter-build Yi right now.

I've always felt this applies more to Vayne. Yes, Yi gets true damage, and you can't reduce his attack speed, but it's a static amount of true damage, and he still deals lots of physical. Therefore building HP+armor does extend your life duration against him...he just does a lot of damage, so it may not feel like it.

Vayne on the other hand deals % of your total HP in true damage. THAT is a case of literally no way to counter build, other than attack speed reduction of which there is a limited amount.

Z3SleeperApr 24, 20193 votes

It's all fine and dandy til he's dealing 24% current health physical damage, 12% max health magic damage and 150 (+ 105% bonus AD) true damage every 2 autos (not even including his passive which makes all those numbers even bigger). Also that 10% of all those % health on-hits are being converted to true damage.

GreenetteApr 24, 20192 votes

So, Im a little confused with your numbers.

Im assuming the 24% current health is from bork? It's 8% so with phantom hit it would be 16% and Yi has no max health damage in his kit and no item grants that. Wuju style deals 50 bonus damage plus 35% bonus ad in true damage, Im not gonna do the math on that but where is the 105% bonus ad thing coming from?

Im not arguing anything but I dont see where the numbers are coming from. Also, bork is a pretty rare buy, it would make more sense to factor in Wit's End damage instead, since it's so strong on him now.

Your numbers are also assuming he has conq and guinsoo's stacked at the start of the fight, and turns on Wuju Style right as conq procs and guinsoo's becomes stacked, which is half the battle as Yi. If you arent fully stacked your damage is literally cut in half, that's a huge window of vulnerability.

IlovemobasApr 23, 20194 votes

Play something like and get fed. whenever he shows up stunlock him with w. The ignorance is strong with you downvote bots. Anyways i will keep on killing yis with olaf, jax, kled and renekton i know what i am talking about.

letsfeedtogetherApr 23, 201926 votes

Until you pass the 25 min mark and renek becomes useless and yi 1 shot him xd

SaiannaApr 23, 20194 votes

thornmail is also a joke of an item. You'd gain more from just buying few potions and drink 'em as they attack you.

All that hate huh

SirHydroApr 23, 20194 votes

For so many people crying Yi is a braindead champ with no skill, I find it hillarious no one can think two steps forward into beating him. Lmao, pick and play your Talon, Kayn, Yasuo, Riven, Camilles. Pick your over loaded champs with over loaded kits. And get rekt by a "brain dead champ" and realize all your try harding is useless without any actual skill or understanding of the game.

Did you know I walked away from a Yi once? It was insane. He only hit me twice. Nerf walk speed Riot pls.

AseraanApr 23, 20192 votes

Please lemme join i have tales too: -like the time i flashed away from him AFTER HE LANDED HIS Q and he could not follow me anymore what a brilliant idea -or the time i was using zony he q's on me and pops out like a total stoog getting killed by my ignite -OR the time i was landing my CC skillshot E whit velkoz under myself cuz as a yi main i know where he will pop out from the q and just straight wqr ed him right after as he sloged to the conclusion hes DED -or the time when i literaly landed any kind of skill on him -or the time when anyone in my team had any idea how to play the game and not lose literally to any champ

Oh gosh the tales for the campfire are the besties indeed.

SirHydroMay 8, 20191 votes

Listens to the good hearty campfire tales of the rift and nods with a chug of his ale

XJ99999999999999Apr 24, 20194 votes

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For so many people crying Yi is a braindead champ with no skill, I find it hillarious no one can think two steps forward into beating him. Lmao, pick and play your Talon, Kayn, Yasuo, Riven, Camilles. Pick your over loaded champs with over loaded kits. And get rekt by a "brain dead champ" and realize all your try harding is useless without any actual skill or understanding of the game.

Did you know I walked away from a Yi once? It was insane. He only hit me twice. Nerf walk speed Riot pls.

the biggest issue with yi is that he thrives in solo Q. i dont feed yi, but my team will feed him and i cant do anything because they will be tilted and not know to cc him and cc hi mafter he QSS. and the games over

lck people dont feed the enemy jungler. its 2-2 like 22 minutes in. solo q its 14 mins in 22-22 aka he thrives.

SirHydroMay 8, 20191 votes

Perhaps the main reason I can't fully enjoy this game: My success is directly tied to the performance of four other strangers. And because of Riot's rules, I can't "encourage" my team mates to do better, because simply asking our lvl3 Eve to stop trying to invade Kha Zix will result in Eve feeling that she's been attacked and reporting us for harass.

Every game is nothing but Riot's algorythym struggling to keep you in a 50/50 win/lose ratio. Is it "time" for you to win? Riot gives you competant players and gives the enemy team 1 afk and 1 tilter. And almost always 1 person that while they try, they are just bad.

Is it "time" for you to lose? Riot will give you an afk and a Leona/Lux duo bot lane and pit you up against a player enemy team 3 whole tiers above you. I have very little control over any game's outcome, barely any control over my own performance. And video games are supposed to be fun. They're supposed to reward a player's skill expression. This game does not.

SanKakUApr 23, 20192 votes

It lasts for 7 seconds. If everyone on your team can stay alive against him for that long, then it's gone. If someone dies, it continues for another 7 seconds and that can repeat until it finally times out or everyone on your team is dead. So actually, armor can help against him considering that. But yeah, crowd control would be more useful.

Z3SleeperApr 23, 201911 votes

Have you ever been in a teamfight this season that lasted 7 seconds without anyone dying?