Leona has too much Utility/CC for a support

4NoxiousHours·Jan 28, 2015·2 votes·2,234 views

Compared to Thresh, Blitz and Morgana.

Their Q can't bypass minions but with Leona she is able to bypass minions and I find that pretty annoying because her E is a snare that's similar to thresh's Q but faster. She is also even able to stun and then stun again by ulting which would ALSO reduce movement speed. She is also a tank mixed with all this -_-

I find her to be an obnoxious champion to go against because of how she's able to bypass minions. I rather have her E's range to be increased to blitz's Q range and can't bypass minions.

since she has SO much utility and is a Heavy Tank, to nerf her E to a point where her E can't bypass minions -.-

4 Comments

Tis a nice dayJan 28, 20156 votes

She can't poke, she can't heal, and she needs to run up to people's faces (unlike blitz who brings people's faces to him) in order to use most of her utility.

ababytigerJan 28, 20153 votes

Well you honestly solved your own problem already. As you said and as she was introduced. She is a tank. She is only currently mainly played in the support role. But as she is now she can go mid, top, and jungle as either ad or ap just fine with little problem. Just like Annie or even Fiddlesticks they are not supports but they are played now mainly as such. And even then to compare her to E to Blitzcrank and Thresh is just silly. Unlike her when she lands that move she is forced to be up in your face and away from her team. While Blitz pulls them into his team and thresh has the option of following it up. That is why she has so much CC and gains free MR and Armor.

TsundayJan 28, 20153 votes

Thresh Q is a 1.5 second stun as well as a displacement, Leona's E doesn't stun, Leona's E is a self displacement, Leona's E is a very small root. Thresh's E is a knockback which can't be reduced by tenacity and has a slow tagged onto the end. Thresh's E stun is longer than Leona's Q stun and it's ranged, Thresh doesn't put himself in the enemy team to lock someone down, Thresh's ult has a 99% slow which is stronger than Leo's slow when she doesn't hit the center of her ult.

Blitz pulls the enemy to you. In a teamfight he creates a pick where that a pull means instant death because you have no allies near you to help. Blitz repositions an enemy, knocks them up (which again can't be reduced by tenacity), and then silences them.

Both of them have just as much CC as Leona with less 'in your face' consequences. I find it easier to punish Leona for engaging than Blitz or Thresh.

Leona is also a primary tank. It's like calling Annie or old AP Nidalee as overpowered in some way (probably in terms of damage for both) as a support...they aren't really primary supports. In fact there are numerous people who carry themselves to high elo playing only Leona top/jungle.

I find her to be an obnoxious champion to go against because of how she's able to bypass minions.

She takes minion aggro by bypassing them and if you nerf her E to not work through minions you will probably inadvertly nerf her ability to waveclear in a solo lane as well as to help her ADC last hit in a duo lane as going through a wave with her E helps clear.

I find her to be an obnoxious champion to go against

And personally as someone who is 5/2 with Leo but also 4/1 with Thresh and 2/1 with Janna (aka Leo's 2 big counters other than Morgana) I don't find Leona to be OP or bothersome. She' only bothersome if I'm playing a squishy support with low CC aka Raka (or Sona). Nami bubble, Lulu's entire kit, Janna all don't bother me too much against Leona.