Here's an idea: Make Zed's abilities deal REDUCED DAMAGE AGAINST MINIONS

Du Ma Mi·Feb 24, 2016·3 votes·355 views

Honestly, everyone keeps complaining about Zed being able to win any lane, and having no clear weaknesses, yada yada yada.

The only big thing I have a problem with is his waveclear - for a near 100% pick champion (to say that he's almost solely used to assassinate one key champion and get out quickly, not talking about play-rate) he shouldn't be able to clear entire waves at level 7 with just a WQE, and maybe three auto attacks.

My proposal? Just put a small passive on his Q or E to deal slightly reduced damage on minions so he can't just combo a wave for a few hundred gold.

He should have to work for it, especially since he uses energy, so he can spam his abilities to waveclear if he must. Just a suggestion.

10 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 24, 20161 votes

Zed's core strength is his strong laning phase and waveclear. This is due to his late game assassination being completely negated by 1 of two items

Du Ma MiFeb 24, 20161 votes

One of 2 items? Meaning zhonya's and... Guardian Angel? Just don't ult the bitch that bought a zhonya's. He's too strong to have such a good laning phase.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 24, 20161 votes

QSS. And his point is to have a strong laning phase. If you don't feed him, he's not much of a problem later

Du Ma MiFeb 24, 20161 votes

You don't see that many QSS's. Not to say no one builds it, but it really doesn't get used very much. Also, yes he should have a strong laning phase, but my point is his WAVECLEAR. Last hitting is as easy as taking a shit while on laxatives, because of his passive, and he has high single-target damage, with a reasonably safe laning phase, and dive potential. He doesn't need to be able to combo a full wave at level 7.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 24, 20161 votes

People not building QSS is entirely on those people. It's probably the biggest counter to Zed, as it completely eliminates his ult.

And his laning phase os strong because he has strong waveclear. Because late game he won't be able to damage the squishies due to Zhonya's or QSS, he has a strong lane and waveclear utility.

I'm not quite sure you understand what having a strong laning phase is supposed to mean

Papa SlothyFeb 25, 20161 votes

mercurial scimitar is actually really good, so don't use the excuse "noone builds it" it's sort of true but it's not Zed's fault they don't want it ;-;

Du Ma MiFeb 25, 20161 votes

I don't want to be building a Mercurial (that gives MAGIC RESIST) against an AD laner, and likely a mostly AD team. It just doesn't give the stats I want for a 3000$ passive.