Day 550, we still cannot remake 4v5 ARAM games

Carnicore·Nov 19, 2017·177 votes·2,302 views

Seriously, it's especially bad today with all the afks due to server problems on NA. Why isn't this a feature yet?

33 Comments

KuromatsuNov 19, 201710 votes

Aram needs a lot of love. Period.

Banana 18 BroNov 19, 20178 votes

Based on the other comments, it sounds to me like people believe that nobody plays ARAM o.O

I love ARAM and it's my favorite mode in this game (Poro King first but it's still on the Howling Abyss map). It's annoying not to have a remake option in the mode as 80% of the ARAM games last 14-15 minutes. Surrender should also be at 10th min on ARAM mainly because of that.

GrandussNov 19, 20177 votes

As a consistant ARAM player, this is much needed. I have won a FEW 4v5 games, but I lose most of them. Somethimes you can win the 4v5 and it feels good, but that is as rare as going out for coffee with a unicorn.

A small change can help a large player base. Please Rito.

MusNov 19, 20175 votes

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Seriously, it's especially bad today with all the afks due to server problems on NA. Why isn't this a feature yet?

I would rather them take out warmogs first before they implement a remake.

When you have to die to buy but you can just regen to full in 10 seconds seems a little funny if you ask me.

PaladinNONov 19, 20172 votes

I'll trade you. Remove Mark, the ability that ruined ARAM, and Warmog can go too.

AlienPrimateNov 19, 20175 votes

You mean the ability that made it not be whoever has the most poke wins. Mark made melee champions a threat instead of just being a meat shield.

PaladinNONov 20, 20171 votes

You remember the old Guardian's Horn? Zephyr? That was all the gapcloser I ever needed on champions like Volibear, Singed, Shyvana, Trundle etc.

Besides, it was ARAM. I queued up knowing this could happen. I never did mind. Because I knew it eventually would be my turn to play the annoying poking mage.

I play ARAM for the randomness (which is where the fun is). Not for fairness.

SpecterVonBarenNov 20, 20171 votes

Then why do you care about snowball?

PaladinNONov 20, 20171 votes

I care about Mark because it simply offers so much more than a movement speed boost. Had it only been the dash, period, then it'd be fine.

But as it is, if offers a dodge, a fast-moving ward, stealth detection, damage in addition to the dash. Bottom line: It's WAY overloaded with features.

MusNov 21, 20171 votes

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I'll trade you. Remove Mark, the ability that ruined ARAM, and Warmog can go too.

But Mark gives you the Christmas Feels. When you can kill your enemy with a little pile of snow.

Built to TyltNov 19, 20173 votes

Because ARAM is their lowest of low priorities. I mean, after Yi at least. He's still the #1 never-going-to-be-touched-lowest-priority-queue-of-queues, but I digress.

Howling Abyss is the most unstable and laggy map. There are so many issues with it after all these years that they just don't care to update. And honestly, why when they have 2-3 champions coming out a year with ~~$$$~~ skins to make. Why put time and effort and payroll into any map that isn't Summoner's Rift.

And to be honest, I'm really fucking bored with the maps they have. This game is how old? So boring to play on the same shit over and over. I suppose that's why they think ~~dangerous I know~~ they have to reinvent the game every season and the champs every mid-season.

~~Logic~~

LatetotheRaceNov 19, 20173 votes

Eh, it's a simple coding swap. It wouldn't take that long or with much effort, and it's something a lower down dev could do. just chuck it in the pbe for 2-3 months and make sure nothing bugs out, and stick it on live. Problem solved.

Dead flag bluesNov 19, 20172 votes

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Because ARAM is their lowest of low priorities. I mean, after Yi at least. He's still the #1 never-going-to-be-touched-lowest-priority-queue-of-queues, but I digress.

Howling Abyss is the most unstable and laggy map. There are so many issues with it after all these years that they just don't care to update. And honestly, why when they have 2-3 champions coming out a year with ~~$$$~~ skins to make. Why put time and effort and payroll into any map that isn't Summoner's Rift.

And to be honest, I'm really fucking bored with the maps they have. This game is how old? So boring to play on the same shit over and over. I suppose that's why they think ~~dangerous I know~~ they have to reinvent the game every season and the champs every mid-season.

~~Logic~~

So why did they randomly add Warmog 2 years ago, shit that literally broke the mode, nerf Ornn on it when he was released, buff Nasus stacking ?

Kaladin DavarNov 19, 20171 votes

saying "but I digress" does not make you sound smart. More so the opposite.

PaladinNONov 20, 20171 votes

They messed it up even more and called it balanced. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ou8FmdQG-aram-changes-for-710

They simply don't care about the fun factor that ARAM should have. The fun is simply in it being random. Trying to balancing it just makes it worse. First things first: Mark needs to go. NOW.

I had ~5000 ARAM games when it got introduced, and with it being a free dash, ability dodge, fast moving ward, stealth revealer and even provides damage...well, looks like FeralPony, who calls it "in a good spot", has been smoking too many socks.

DubshokaNov 20, 20171 votes

I like this guy, he's crazy.

PaladinNONov 20, 20171 votes

I like this guy, he's crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acjf66Qdj2U&feature=youtu.be&t=10

PaladinNONov 19, 20173 votes

Considering ARAM is supposed to be such a short game mode, what would a decent remake timer be? https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1848108080/201309331?tab=overview

5 minutes? Hell, some people can't even finish loading in that time. 10 minutes? Some games would be already over by then depending on the rolls. 20 minutes? Would likely already have been wasting at least 10 minutes of some peoples time, as most leaves happens around the 10-minute mark.

As an ARAM OTP myself (7143 games and counting), I didn't even know there was no remake option on the Howling Abyss, as I have never made one myself, ever.

But what the hell. Set the remake option at 10 minutes, and make the punishments for dodgers (especially those who leaves in the last 3 seconds) even more severe.

A week's ban should sort them out. item 3022

Kaladin DavarNov 19, 20171 votes

Nope.

PaladinNONov 19, 20173 votes

Nope.

https://i.giphy.com/media/ljaDzjv8cpIpa/giphy.gif

Let's make it a 2 week ban.

B W P 45Nov 19, 20173 votes

I've been stalking just about every "quick gameplay thoughts" thread and Riot Q/A post they have had since October with this very question. I have never received a response on remakes for Aram's. I've also asked why do they not address Aram only accounts and the tons of dodges you get before game start.

Take my upvote and Hopefully you'll get some better luck! The Aram GM needs some updates.

LatetotheRaceNov 19, 20172 votes

This is a thing? Wow... well, support mate!

YambrinZNov 19, 20172 votes

Honestly they just need to kick a random player from the other team, give them some free XP and let the game go on 4v4.

PaladinNONov 20, 20171 votes

If such a kick is to be made, then it needs to be through a unanimous vote. Meaning all 5 players would have to agree on who to kick.

Not a bad idea though.

Mr DallowayNov 19, 20172 votes

Mark is the only thing that makes ARAM not suck if you get an easily kited melee champ and the other team has lots of range. Actually I take mark/flash on every champ.

StpTlkinAnBndOvrNov 19, 20171 votes

Also the grading system for aram blows. Plus tons of other various problems. Im looking at you roll face mages.

SpecterVonBarenNov 20, 20171 votes

And remove Warmogs or at least nerf it in some way on that map.

Late For TeaNov 20, 20171 votes

Players who don't care that they AFK'd or don't consider it a big deal are the worst. AFK seems to be severely punished in SR, but on ARAM Riot seems to not give a single shit.

SaiannaNov 21, 20171 votes

Ask for changes when winter sale rolls in. That's the time when Riot suddenly remembers ARAM exists. And if you so happen to catch a Rioter in that time, he might by an accident actually listen to you.

Any other day of the year will end up with very polite reply that one might sum up to "fuck off" from Rioters.