How do I beat j4?

Wicked FlamezZ··1 votes·275 views

Im not gonna act like a saint because I picked darius but then he picks j4. The entire lane consisted of me trying to last to freeze but getting spammed q by an ability that seemingly costed 0 mana when used off cooldown and did 1/8 of my hp at level 2..... 8 hits = bye. So after 5m of not being able to freeze the lane because his spam q could simultaneously poke me out while shoving the lane into a reset via tower damage I tried to use q to farm from a distance. One issue, darius q shoves hard as FUCK so as soon as I got past river he just all in me and I died in all of 4 seconds. Shyvana refused to do anything until 6 and then didn't help and chose to camp bot until a J4 came down and one shot both the adc and support. shocker it's almost like I said he was shitting on me and I needed help.

He had more base stats than me in resistance and DAMAGE. He had more HP than me. His moves did more damage than mine.... The champ completely outclasses mine. His shield at level 3 was strong enough to not only block my Q AT THE TIP but to also shield from the bleed. Like what? His q shreds more armor than my E and his E+Q combo does more damage than my E+W combo. The only thing I had on him was a heal but it's largely not effective when he can 1. block all the damage and 2. use e+q to negate the heal by taking point blank damage.

Playing safe and last hitting didn't work, using ranged farming didn't work, fighting him HELLA din't work, roaming didn't work cas ya know we had a lucian mid and they had an lb so with what CC was I roaming with to catch her? I understand counterpicks but I don't think a counter should be so hard literally no playstyle will work and your performance is based off your jg. I can't find a single article saying I can win that match-up. That's disgusting.

3 Comments

Glîtchy1 votes

J4 is countered HARD by Yorick and Renekton, going by my experience anyway.

ReySolomon1 votes

You didn't rush item 3071 right? you can't do that anymore due to the nerfs leaving him in a bad state so you are forced to build armor/mr now.

jwebb01131 votes

well what you need to know about J4 is how his kit works...

if he spams Q too much he will go oom

his passive does 10% of targets current health as physical damage with a cooldown of 10/8/6 seconds

his Q reduces a targets armor by 3 seconds ARMOR REDUCTION: 10 / 14 / 18 / 22 / 26% of target's armor

so key is to get armor vs him ... doran shield start and rush ninja tabs

if he uses Q on you while its on CD this is where you want to engage at lvl 1 it has a 10 second cd so for this match up as darius if he used Q he is some what steping forward its a linear shot step to the side and forward to gain some ground and then use Q to trade back if he hit you with damage your Q should help you heal back ... your Q as darius has a 9 second cd at lvl 1 so its up before his Q is and is a 1 second shorter CD at all ranks

by having dorans shield and ninja tabs early you reduce damage u take from him... have movment speed to dodge the Q or his E Q combo and if you dodge Q with having boots you can close that distance to get your Q off and or grab him with your hook and do short burst trades like this til he is low and can kill him.

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