@Riot: Instead of nerfing things that don't need to be nerfed, nerf damage.

DragonShea·Jul 8, 2018·6 votes·3,484 views

There was a time to discuss this in a civil manner, but I sincerely believe that that time has past. So with all due respect Riot. Go fuck yourself. People have listed several examples of it and while the boards can and is at times a cesspool of toxicity, it's also a place that dedicated players have ideas and suggestion that are worth listening to and right now damage is a big problem. If you continue to ignore players complaints with are backed up by facts then you are not ignoring toxic players, but players that have constructive inputs and thus ruining the game by not listening.

I am being harsh because I love this game and it be become better that it is now.

Peace.

11 Comments

JamareeJul 8, 20185 votes

This place doesn't even slightly understand balance, that is why this place is ignored btw.

Lets have shrexJul 8, 20183 votes

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This place doesn't even slightly understand balance, that is why this place is ignored btw.

I don't think Rito understands better about balance when champions like Yasuo MasterYi Zoe Tryndamere are still out there with the same toxic kits

JamareeJul 8, 20183 votes

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I don't think Rito understands better about balance when champions like are still out there with the same toxic kits

High elo players say Yasou sucks, Yi has literally been the same for years and the way to beat him hasn't changed at all during that time, Zoe, dodge the skillshot, Try likely does need a rework at this point.

Lets have shrexJul 8, 20182 votes

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High elo players say Yasou sucks, Yi has literally been the same for years and the way to beat him hasn't changed at all during that time, Zoe, dodge the skillshot, Try likely does need a rework at this point.

Zoe can have random sums and active from minions when RNG is the most toxic mechanic of this game, hitting her E will guarantee a kill most of the time Yasuo has an overloaded kit and is obviously the cash cow of the game. Like really he has 2 passives and both don't have anything in common nor a synergy (looking at having 2 passives, but they do synergyze), his windwall has been the most broken skill of the entire game and hasn't been touched since his release. Are we playing the same game ? He's pick or ban atm MasterYi "just cc him" when Riot themselves stated that the only counter to a champion is cc'ing him is a toxic kit, especially that tanks can no longer tank him thanks to conqueror Tryndamere has the most uninteractive kit of the entire game, same as and his R is basically "am I going to kill this guy ? Yes ? press R. Am I not going to kill this guy ? yes ? Press r.

JamareeJul 8, 20181 votes

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can have random sums and active from minions when RNG is the most toxic mechanic of this game, hitting her E will guarantee a kill most of the time

It's a skillshot, it should do a lot.

has an overloaded kit and is obviously the cash cow of the game. Like really he has 2 passives and both don't have anything in common nor a synergy (looking at having 2 passives, but they do synergyze), his windwall has been the most broken skill of the entire game and hasn't been touched since his release

You mean the skill that does literally nothing against half the cast in the game?

"just cc him" when Riot themselves stated that the only counter to a champion is cc'ing him is a toxic kit, especially that tanks can no longer tank him thanks to conqueror

And yet he still hasn't broken into pro play because of it.

has the most uninteractive kit of the entire game, same as and his R is basically "am I going to kill this guy ? Yes ? press R. Am I not going to kill this guy ? yes ? Press r.

Hence why I think he needs a rework at this point.

Lets have shrexJul 8, 20181 votes

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It's a skillshot, it should do a lot.

You mean the skill that does literally nothing against half the cast in the game?

And yet he still hasn't broken into pro play because of it.

Hence why I think he needs a rework at this point.

MasterYi is not picked in pro-play because it's all about teamwork, and people will most of the time make their entire team comp to counter the champion. If it wasn't the case, you would have seen the gold funneling strat with

Yasuo a basic ability can delete ultimates, block auto-attacks, block minion attacks with no downside aside of its downtime and you believe this is an ok ability ?

Zoe toxic kit isn't about her skillshot as I stated but fuck you pretend to be blind.

JamareeJul 8, 20181 votes

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is not picked in pro-play because it's all about teamwork, and people will most of the time make their entire team comp to counter the champion. If it wasn't the case, you would have seen the gold funneling strat with

So why can't that teamwork concept apply to here, why can't players get better and more unified so that Yi stops being a threat?

a basic ability can delete ultimates, block auto-attacks, block minion attacks with no downside aside of its downtime and you believe this is an ok ability ?

It does have a downside, if you don't have ranged in your kit, or are a melee brusier, it is a skill that is eating up his power budget and does literally nothing.

toxic kit isn't about her skillshot as I stated but fuck you pretend to be blind.

Then why include it, remove the RNG effect, make it static of some kind then, we would have go about removing all RNG period.

saltranJul 8, 20181 votes

Agree, I would even be happy if Rito decided to remove the Boards, fk this place.

DragonSheaJul 8, 20181 votes

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Agree, I would even be happy if Rito decided to remove the Boards, fk this place.

We need a better place to discuss the game. one for shittards and one for people that actually care about the game.

DragonSheaJul 8, 20182 votes

Tryndamere is a binary bitch champions. His kit is all about getting a snowball, and even if you get him behind. His ult allows him to stay alive for longer that he should. In a meta where you die slow it's kind. That extra time alive doesn't impact the game that much but in this toxic high damage meta it allows Trynda to be immortal and destroy that doesn't play safe and that will cost you some CS. Not to mention that Conqueror and item 3031 grants him up to 32% true damage on his crits, meaning that he is without a doubt, Broken and OP AF. Few mechanics, high damage, cheat death, high meta. Tryndamere is practially the posterboy for this meta we have right now.

MasterYi : He ain't too bad actually. still shit for days but he does have more mechanics due to his meditate and Q. IF you got GW, CC and true damage his meditate makes him a sitting duck that will get merced if he ain't careful. is binary but he does have to make a choice and forces the players to think if they want to do ham or not.

Yasuo : Old news, scales too hard into the late game and needs a slight nerf to his shield due to his tricky survivability.

Zoe : Swap her E with her ult and we are good. Her damage is insane with her E as a basic ability and She should be a more mobile poke type champ, but if she is caught, bye bye, so maybe lower her HP a bit

S V Jul 8, 20181 votes

Or buff dead champs and revert non meta characters to be playable in today's meta so people who main current champs will also have to face equally strong buffed champs? Or revert some reworks?